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    Re: Controversial bill to expand religious protections advances

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    The word is semantics.
    Sounds good, then you agree it can be called something else and you can still obtain the same "rights, privileges, and benefits."

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    Re: Controversial bill to expand religious protections advances

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Sounds good, then you agree it can be called something else and you can still obtain the same "rights, privileges, and benefits."
    It was not me nor any other gay rights supporter who passed like 20 state constitutional bans on civil unions. Are you publicly supporting their repeal?

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    Re: Controversial bill to expand religious protections advances

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    It was not me nor any other gay rights supporter who passed like 20 state constitutional bans on civil unions. Are you publicly supporting their repeal?
    I support the repeal of all state laws banning or supporting marriage of any kind.

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    Re: Controversial bill to expand religious protections advances

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    I support the repeal of all state laws banning or supporting marriage of any kind.
    Ah, so you see civil unions as marriage. I guess the name does not matter to you as much as you suggested.

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    Re: Controversial bill to expand religious protections advances

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Ah, so you see civil unions as marriage.
    Nobody logically can.

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    Re: Controversial bill to expand religious protections advances

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    UGH.....I am really tired of gay noise....Just get married already and leave the rest of us alone....As for the Atheist....They settled a case and they are dancing in the streets...Big deal. The Amish in KY, yeah, don't get why they refused but ok....And the final Amish story, of a guy suing over losing his job, I think KeystoneRV made the wrong case...Instead of trying to argue title VII they should have just dismissed out of hand any sort of discrimination, and stuck with the reason he was fired....Safety....Once they entertained the dismissed employee's claim, they gave it credit....Poor attorney's.
    Just to chime in on one part of this... The Amish have been fighting putting the orange sticker on their buggies because they believe if they get killed in a car wreck then it was God's will... kind of thinking.
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    Re: Controversial bill to expand religious protections advances

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Nobody logically can.
    Then why not support the repeal of all state constitutional bans against civil unions? I like that conservatives are willing to insist that gays settle for less than marriage, but they are not going to support the repeal of bans against civil unions. It is hypocritical beyond belief.

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    Re: Controversial bill to expand religious protections advances

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Then why not support the repeal of all state constitutional bans against civil unions?
    I support the repeal of all state laws banning or supporting marriage of any kind.

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    Re: Controversial bill to expand religious protections advances

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    OK - let us then go with instances that have actually occurred in various locales around the country. Actual happenings where a religious fanatic with a public business refused to serve others because their "religious" beliefs were offended. Under the Arizona law as proposed, all of these cases of discrimination would be legal in Arizona.

    Sweet Cakes' refusal of same-sex wedding order found to violate customers' rights: Readers weigh in | OregonLive.com

    http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes...e-beliefs.html

    LifeSiteNews Mobile | Judge Rules Christian facility cannot ban same-sex civil union ceremony on its own premises

    Atheist group claims civil rights victory over Rochester Hills country club | MLive.com

    No idea what you are saying with your comment about the Amish, but some Amish in Kentucky did spend a few days in jail for a really silly reason - Religious Discrimination? 8 Amish Men Jailed After Refusal to Post Safety Signs on Buggies | Video | TheBlaze.com

    doing the Google, I did find a case of an Amish-owned company losing a discrimination suit. The company tried to argue that being “non-Amish” is not a protected category under Title VII; one must be discriminated against because of one’s religion—not one’s non-religion. The court reje cted this argument. - Document 16 :: McIntire v. Keystone RV Company :: 3:2010cv00508 :: Indiana Northern District Court :: US Federal District Courts Cases :: Justia
    So... your great counterargument is that... there is an obvious need for the bill under discussion, as the kinds of abuses of people's rights that this bill is designed to prevent are prevalent.

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    Re: Controversial bill to expand religious protections advances

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Some people really don't understand the word "discrimination"



    Why wouldn't refusal to hire a gay person simply because of that person's sexual orientation be discrimination?

    What if the employer thinks unmarried pregnant women should be shunned, not be allowed to work for him/her? Isn't that discrimination?

    White supremacists often use the Bible to justify their racism. This proposed law would allow a member of the Aryan Nation cult to refuse entry into his business, refusal to rent to those he considers inferior beings, etc. Like I posted at the beginning, there are some people who really don't understand the meaning of "discrimination"
    pure nonsense

    same excuses were used to discriminate against minorities and women in the past too.

    they were mentally retarded and dishonest then also

    bigots and people who support discrimination see the writing on the wall, they are scared and the REEEEEEK of desperation and its hilarious, they no the have all but lost the war so they are clinging, hoping to win some little battles and make a last stand but thier ducks are cooked!


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