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    Re: For Christie and MSNBC, a Messy Divorce Plays Out in Public View

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Who the hell knows what you were implying. But this is in the middle of your babble in the OP.




    ... so that's why I'm asking.
    Did you read the article?
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    Re: For Christie and MSNBC, a Messy Divorce Plays Out in Public View

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Why not make a comment about banana trees...they have as much to do with what I said as your comment.
    No. You seemed to be implying that MSNBC was reporting this story solely based on partisanship. So I asked, do you think it is a story worth covering or is it only a story that partisans do for the sake of partisanship?
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    Re: For Christie and MSNBC, a Messy Divorce Plays Out in Public View

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    What? You mean that the liberals at MSLSD are not honest in their collaborative fake friendship to Christie? Who'd have thunk it.
    So your editorial is claiming what you want to hear...

    Meanwhile, most of us are more interested in actual facts, not who has the best spin.
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    Re: For Christie and MSNBC, a Messy Divorce Plays Out in Public View

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Did you read the article?
    I read the part of the story what you posted. You are definitely a republican. Instead of just answering a simple question, you stay on offense by constantly answering questions with a question.

    It's the eternal dodge tactic.
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    Re: For Christie and MSNBC, a Messy Divorce Plays Out in Public View

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    McCain used to think the same thing before his run....
    And there we see the real story - bias doesn't bother you as much as which way it goes.


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    Re: For Christie and MSNBC, a Messy Divorce Plays Out in Public View

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    No. You seemed to be implying that MSNBC was reporting this story solely based on partisanship. So I asked, do you think it is a story worth covering or is it only a story that partisans do for the sake of partisanship?
    No implication was made - any such notion was completely of your own making. The story of MSNBC's messy break up with Christie as a news story is not very compelling to me as it is real life embodiment of the scorpion and the frog.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: For Christie and MSNBC, a Messy Divorce Plays Out in Public View

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    What? You mean that the liberals at MSLSD are not honest in their collaborative fake friendship to Christie? Who'd have thunk it.
    With the possible exception of Morning Joe, MSNBC is the Democratic National Committee Network. MSNBC plays to their viewers which are highly Democratic and liberal. Unless MSNBC has changed, only between the hours of 11AM-1PM is there any thing on that network that would be considered straight news reporting. The rest is talk shows, not news. Talk shows are free to say what ever they want and you can bet they will play to their audience. If one separates regular news reporting from political talk shows with an agenda of electing and/or re-electing Democrats this should be of no surprise.
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    Re: For Christie and MSNBC, a Messy Divorce Plays Out in Public View

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    With the possible exception of Morning Joe, MSNBC is the Democratic National Committee Network. MSNBC plays to their viewers which are highly Democratic and liberal. Unless MSNBC has changed, only between the hours of 11AM-1PM is there any thing on that network that would be considered straight news reporting. The rest is talk shows, not news. Talk shows are free to say what ever they want and you can bet they will play to their audience. If one separates regular news reporting from political talk shows with an agenda of electing and/or re-electing Democrats this should be of no surprise.
    There is no doubt about that, and I would say that FNC is the same in the inverse. But with that said, there is a certain thought among republican moderates like Christie, like McCain, like Graham that think that they can court liberal partisans on these networks by bucking their own party, and platforms. Liberals love that until the politician in question starts to gain traction in running against a liberal opponent, then they turn on a dime and start attacking the republican.

    This is where liberals excel, they understand that conservative media outlets are not ever going to portray them in a favorable light when the chips are down, and they approach those outlets in an appropriate fashion. So, what I was actually saying in addition to MSLSD being harsh on Christie, was really as much Christie's fault for thinking that these people would fairly report on him, or his faux scandal.
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    Re: For Christie and MSNBC, a Messy Divorce Plays Out in Public View

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    And there we see the real story - bias doesn't bother you as much as which way it goes.
    Maybe not as much, but the move by big media journalism over the last 20 years has been to overtly move toward letting their own personal political biases seep through to the point where we no longer have objective journalism. We get OpEd journalism, and agitprop spewed by some of the worst offenders, rather than serious reporting.

    Think about it this way, and I hate using the long overused Bush v Obama paradigm, but let's say that Bush was in office, and there were these scandals popping up, and in fact there was absolutely a hostile press during that time, where the coverage was non stop about the dumbest of things that were inflated to nightly coverage. In today's media with an Obama administration, one that the large bulk of media largely ideologically agrees with, there is little coverage of the the scandals that come out of this administration, an in fact they carry the talking point water for this administration, something they just wouldn't do for a repub administration. That is clear when a local story about the GW bridge being backed up gets 17 times the coverage from a national outlet over over a report of Benghazi security being inadequate resulting in the death of 4 american's, or an IRS targeting political opponents in an election year to aid the incumbent administration regain the white house.

    There is something inherently wrong with that fundamentally and you know it.
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    Re: For Christie and MSNBC, a Messy Divorce Plays Out in Public View

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    There is no doubt about that, and I would say that FNC is the same in the inverse. But with that said, there is a certain thought among republican moderates like Christie, like McCain, like Graham that think that they can court liberal partisans on these networks by bucking their own party, and platforms. Liberals love that until the politician in question starts to gain traction in running against a liberal opponent, then they turn on a dime and start attacking the republican.

    This is where liberals excel, they understand that conservative media outlets are not ever going to portray them in a favorable light when the chips are down, and they approach those outlets in an appropriate fashion. So, what I was actually saying in addition to MSLSD being harsh on Christie, was really as much Christie's fault for thinking that these people would fairly report on him, or his faux scandal.
    Fox is not that bad. Fox has straight news from 9AM till 5PM and then again from 6-7PM. Granted Fox slants right during their straight news, but their talk shows really do not start until 7PM with Gretta although the FIve is there at 5PM. Courting liberal media outlets usually does not work and always backfires it seems. It does seems most Republicans have remained quiet about bridgegate and have not come out to defend him as Democrats would have if he were from their party. Guilliani, Romney, McCain and the RNC head along with Rove are the only ones I have heard come out in his defense. Two has beens, a senator headed for retirement, a talking head and one who job is to defend every republican regardless. Not a strong list for sure.

    But this whole thing was of his or his underlings makings, so we will see where the chips fall.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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