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    Re: U.S. To Fund Math Education Research in Canada

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    Ah, yes, the teacher-union bashing. When will people learn that honey attracts more flies than vinegar?
    Calling out an obvious problem is not bashing in my book. Tenure was and continues to be a problem.

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    And again, if the changes do not start with copious amounts of input from the teachers, then THAT would be the real waste of time and money. As has been done so many times in the past.
    Of course teachers need to be part of the solution and their input is required. However the teachers don't control the politics, nor do they have the power to change the public school system. That must be done at the legislative level and the unions are a huge road block to making changes. Nothing discussed yet is addressing those issues so I remain cynical about any useful data coming from this study making any difference at all.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: U.S. To Fund Math Education Research in Canada

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    Given the fact that teachers have put their own financial security ahead of improving the education of children, then absolutely yes.

    Their selfishness is why our education system is so broken.
    This is a prejudiced and ignorant comment. You just insulted hundreds of thousands of teachers without having the slightest clue what they really do and why.

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    And spewing your incorrect and ridiculous assertions over and over will not make them true.

    You are really embarrassing yourself here.
    One should not throw stones in a glass house. I'm still waiting on your answer of how much K-12 teaching experience you have.
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    Re: U.S. To Fund Math Education Research in Canada

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    Calling out an obvious problem is not bashing in my book. Tenure was and continues to be a problem.

    Of course teachers need to be part of the solution and their input is required. However the teachers don't control the politics, nor do they have the power to change the public school system. That must be done at the legislative level and the unions are a huge road block to making changes. Nothing discussed yet is addressing those issues so I remain cynical about any useful data coming from this study making any difference at all.
    Where did you get all this information from? How can you be so sure of what teachers really want? Have you set down and listened to any of them? Or are you simply imposing your reality on them?
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    Re: U.S. To Fund Math Education Research in Canada

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Where did you get all this information from? How can you be so sure of what teachers really want? Have you set down and listened to any of them? Or are you simply imposing your reality on them?
    Teachers don't control the politics - I don't need a teacher to tell me that. They don't have the power to change the public school system as that is up to the legislature - state and federal. I don't need a teacher to tell me that either. I don't presume to know what teachers want - which is why I didn't say or assume in the quote you cited from me what they want. My reality is based in fact. If you have different facts saying teachers DO control politics - post it. If you have facts that say teachers have the ability to collectively pass legislation at the state or federal level - post it.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: U.S. To Fund Math Education Research in Canada

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Teachers don't control the politics - I don't need a teacher to tell me that. They don't have the power to change the public school system as that is up to the legislature - state and federal. I don't need a teacher to tell me that either.
    Wow, dat attitude.

    I don't presume to know what teachers want - which is why I didn't say or assume in the quote you cited from me what they want. My reality is based in fact. If you have different facts saying teachers DO control politics - post it. If you have facts that say teachers have the ability to collectively pass legislation at the state or federal level - post it.
    Then what are you so up in arms about?
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    Re: U.S. To Fund Math Education Research in Canada

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Repeating a lie doesn't make it the truth. Start a new thread if you want to discuss your question.
    Either you actually believe in the standard that you have attempted to impose on others, or you don't, and are merely using it as a handy club (which is a very public union thing to do) to attempt to discredit dissent. Which one is germane to the topic, and your refusal to answer is telling.

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    Re: U.S. To Fund Math Education Research in Canada

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Either you actually believe in the standard that you have attempted to impose on others, or you don't, and are merely using it as a handy club (which is a very public union thing to do) to attempt to discredit dissent. Which one is germane to the topic, and your refusal to answer is telling.
    For the third time, start a thread with your question if it's that important to you. I refuse to take your bait.
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    Re: U.S. To Fund Math Education Research in Canada

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    Wow, dat attitude.
    You haven't seen me with attitude and that was just a simple response.

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    Then what are you so up in arms about?
    Who's up in arms? Where did you get that information?
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: U.S. To Fund Math Education Research in Canada

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    This is a prejudiced and ignorant comment. You just insulted hundreds of thousands of teachers without having the slightest clue what they really do and why.



    One should not throw stones in a glass house. I'm still waiting on your answer of how much K-12 teaching experience you have.
    I need to justify nothing to you.

    You have no idea how blind you truly are.

    It is quite pathetic and very laughable.
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    Re: U.S. To Fund Math Education Research in Canada

    Maybe the Americans just thought the Canadians were stupid so they decided to throw some money at their schools so they wouldn't have to live next to stupid people?

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