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    Re: U.S. To Fund Math Education Research in Canada

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    The teachers have been there all along.

    All I have seen from them is whining for increased salaries and no personal competency responsibilities.

    Time for others to step in.
    These are anti-teacher remarks that make me question what you really want. A logical conclusion that your goal is to have power over teachers. Seriously, with this kind of attitude so pervasive in the States, no wonder our schools have such a problem.
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    Re: U.S. To Fund Math Education Research in Canada

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    No red herring here - only pointing out that you are hypocritically applying a standard to others you appear unwilling to apply to yourself, indicating that the standard you lay out can be effectively ignored
    Repeating a lie doesn't make it the truth. Start a new thread if you want to discuss your question.
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    Re: U.S. To Fund Math Education Research in Canada

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    Plumber college? Wow...


    Afterwards is irrelevant. That's not the purpose of assessments. Assessments are designed to evaluate competence so certification can be issued for a particular professions and occupations. Always at or near the end of formal education. That's it, period. Most professions then require some type of continuing education to maintain certification including doctors, lawyers, teachers, school administrators, accountants, people who prepare income tax, etc.

    Many vocational occupations also require passing tests to obtain certification including those in the automotive field and locksmiths. They also require continuing education credits to maintain certification.


    That was the purpose of my post.
    Being a plumber is a trade so you require a college education, all trades require college (auto mechanics, plumbers, electricians, etc.) or at least now they do. I also missed my "not" in the last post there is not many jobs you can do without a college or university education expect maybe work in a factory or in retail. If you are only taught to test there is a chance you will fail in between those test.
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    Re: U.S. To Fund Math Education Research in Canada

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Nice red herring and strawman. I see you have some opinions on education; what is your background here?
    You don't have to be a hockey player to know when a guy can't skate. What is your background?

    Any number greater than zero would add to your credibility.
    His credibility is just fine.

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    Re: U.S. To Fund Math Education Research in Canada

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    These are anti-teacher remarks that make me question what you really want. A logical conclusion that your goal is to have power over teachers. Seriously, with this kind of attitude so pervasive in the States, no wonder our schools have such a problem.
    Schools are having problems because of public attitudes? So first came the attitude and then the problems, huh?

    What's wrong with having power over teachers? Should they be answerable only to their unions and not the parents whose children they are supposed to teach??

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    Re: U.S. To Fund Math Education Research in Canada

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You don't have to be a hockey player to know when a guy can't skate. What is your background?
    Man. If only teachers were payed half of what NHL players were. If only they got as much visibility via primary sources, not filtered through the corporate media. Yeah, then your analogy wouldn't suck so much.

    His credibility is just fine.
    Wow, what's up with this white knight mentality on this thread? I question a person's credibility, and other people feel the need to come forth and defend him. Man, if only teachers had those kind of allies, we might not even be having this discussion!

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Schools are having problems because of public attitudes? So first came the attitude and then the problems, huh?

    What's wrong with having power over teachers? Should they be answerable only to their unions and not the parents whose children they are supposed to teach??
    Your lack of understanding of the sheer depth of issues that teachers have to put up with these days sticks out like a sore thumb. So I ask you the same question that I asked Ockham: How much K-12 teaching experience do you have?
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    Re: U.S. To Fund Math Education Research in Canada

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Man. If only teachers were payed half of what NHL players were. If only they got as much visibility via primary sources, not filtered through the corporate media. Yeah, then your analogy wouldn't suck so much.
    You seem to have spent some time getting your public education, otherwise you would understand that the analogy wasn't about money. Another poor victim of public education.
    Wow, what's up with this white knight mentality on this thread? I question a person's credibility, and other people feel the need to come forth and defend him. Man, if only teachers had those kind of allies, we might not even be having this discussion!
    I guess it's difficult to find allies when teachers support sexual perversions on their students.Student exodus in Michigan school district where teachers defended child molester | Fox News

    Records prove N.Y. union defends pervert teachers, despite UFT leader
    Your lack of understanding of the sheer depth of issues that teachers have to put up with these days sticks out like a sore thumb. So I ask you the same question that I asked Ockham: How much K-12 teaching experience do you have?
    What has that got to do with teachers molesting their students, or putting their unions ahead of child welfare? How much K-12 teaching experience do you need to say that sexually abusing children is okay?

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    Re: U.S. To Fund Math Education Research in Canada

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You seem to have spent some time getting your public education, otherwise you would understand that the analogy wasn't about money. Another poor victim of public education.
    Oh so now you're going to start assuming things about me despite the fact that you and I have never met. That didn't take long.

    Foxnews.com? Eagnews.org? Puh-lease, those are propaganda websites. If you want to have an honest discussion about this, you could do yourself a favor by actually using real news sources.

    What has that got to do with teachers molesting their students, or putting their unions ahead of child welfare? How much K-12 teaching experience do you need to say that sexually abusing children is okay?
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    Re: U.S. To Fund Math Education Research in Canada

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    These are anti-teacher remarks that make me question what you really want. A logical conclusion that your goal is to have power over teachers. Seriously, with this kind of attitude so pervasive in the States, no wonder our schools have such a problem.
    Given the fact that teachers have put their own financial security ahead of improving the education of children, then absolutely yes.

    Their selfishness is why our education system is so broken.
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    Re: U.S. To Fund Math Education Research in Canada

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Repeating a lie doesn't make it the truth. Start a new thread if you want to discuss your question.
    And spewing your incorrect and ridiculous assertions over and over will not make them true.

    You are really embarrassing yourself here.
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