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    Questions and answers about Obama’s new NSA rules

    Obama is asking a senior White House adviser, John Podesta, to lead a broad review of the use of “big data,” with input from the technology companies and privacy experts.

    Questions and answers about Obama’s new NSA rules - The Washington Post
    Oh, this doesn't sound creepy, or wrong at all....
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    Re: Questions and answers about Obama’s new NSA rules

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Oh, this doesn't sound creepy, or wrong at all....
    It's actually a lot of hot air. What or who is the "special judge"?

    Sounds like lip service to placate the masses. Leaving it up to Congress so when nothing or little is done, he has plausible deniability by saying "Well, I tried. It's all Congress fault."
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Questions and answers about Obama’s new NSA rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    It's actually a lot of hot air. What or who is the "special judge"?

    Sounds like lip service to placate the masses. Leaving it up to Congress so when nothing or little is done, he has plausible deniability by saying "Well, I tried. It's all Congress fault."
    He can't change the law without them, but let's face it, it's not like most of Congress is horrified. They approved for the most part, and now everybody's just trying to play "Cover your ass." Now it's up to Boehner to cover his ass.


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    Re: Questions and answers about Obama’s new NSA rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    It's actually a lot of hot air. What or who is the "special judge"?

    Sounds like lip service to placate the masses. Leaving it up to Congress so when nothing or little is done, he has plausible deniability by saying "Well, I tried. It's all Congress fault."
    Let me get this straight. ..

    First, he's a tyrant, an empirical president abusing his executive power and usurping Congress. Now, when he calls on Congress to find ways to ease civil liberty abuses through the legislative process, I.e., "leaving it up to Congress", instead of doing it himself, suddenly he's placating, not hard enough, didn't go far enough?

    You guys really crack me up. Power hungry if he does, damned and showing no leadership if he doesn't.

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    Re: Questions and answers about Obama’s new NSA rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Let me get this straight. ..

    First, he's a tyrant, an empirical president abusing his executive power and usurping Congress. Now, when he calls on Congress to find ways to ease civil liberty abuses through the legislative process, I.e., "leaving it up to Congress", instead of doing it himself, suddenly he's placating, not hard enough, didn't go far enough?

    You guys really crack me up. Power hungry if he does, damned and showing no leadership if he doesn't.
    Nah, he's doing what all Banana Republic dictators do...When there is an outrage over heavy handed tactics like using a government spy agency to spy on their own citizens, then they appoint a propaganda chief to feed the masses a load of BS, while not changing a single thing....Who better at BS than Podesta, a Soros protege progressive, that has a real problem with telling the truth.
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    Re: Questions and answers about Obama’s new NSA rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Let me get this straight. ..

    First, he's a tyrant, an empirical president abusing his executive power and usurping Congress. Now, when he calls on Congress to find ways to ease civil liberty abuses through the legislative process, I.e., "leaving it up to Congress", instead of doing it himself, suddenly he's placating, not hard enough, didn't go far enough?
    He does what he needs to do to gain the advantage. If that's playing aggressive by ignoring laws or bypassing laws that's fine with him. If it's getting caught with his pants down and then making obvious and fake steps to placate the people who are outraged to lower the heat, that's fine with him too. What I like is that you believe people can only act one way and it's the false choice method.

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    You guys really crack me up. Power hungry if he does, damned and showing no leadership if he doesn't.
    Firstly, this isn't leadership. A lack of leadership has been consistent. Second... what's a "special judge" - one with turrets syndrome perhaps?
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Questions and answers about Obama’s new NSA rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    It's actually a lot of hot air. What or who is the "special judge"?

    Sounds like lip service to placate the masses. Leaving it up to Congress so when nothing or little is done, he has plausible deniability by saying "Well, I tried. It's all Congress fault."
    Exactly! The Amash amendment that would have restricted the NSA failed due to lack of GOP support. It had MORE democratic support. So your right, congress will do nothing!
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    Re: Questions and answers about Obama’s new NSA rules

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Nah, he's doing what all Banana Republic dictators do...When there is an outrage over heavy handed tactics like using a government spy agency to spy on their own citizens, then they appoint a propaganda chief to feed the masses a load of BS, while not changing a single thing....Who better at BS than Podesta, a Soros protege progressive, that has a real problem with telling the truth.
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    Re: Questions and answers about Obama’s new NSA rules

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Oh, this doesn't sound creepy, or wrong at all....
    We went through this before. Senator Church. 1975, nobody listened to the harsh warnings of potential for NSA abuse then, and no one is likely to listen now. Furthermore, its unlikely we will get from the Soros crony, what we got from Senator Church.


    In the need to develop a capacity to know what potential enemies are doing, the United States government has perfected a technological capability that enables us to monitor the messages that go through the air. Now, that is necessary and important to the United States as we look abroad at enemies or potential enemies. We must know, at the same time, that capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left such is the capability to monitor everything—telephone conversations, telegrams, it doesn’t matter. There would be no place to hide.
    If this government ever became a tyrant, if a dictator ever took charge in this country, the technological capacity that the intelligence community has given the government could enable it to impose total tyranny, and there would be no way to fight back because the most careful effort to combine together in resistance to the government, no matter how privately it was done, is within the reach of the government to know. Such is the capability of this technology.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_Committee


    It should be noted that way back in 1975 Senator Church disclosed that the technology to monitor THE MESSAGES already existed. And consider the advances in technology since.
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