The Patriot Act gave authorities to circumvent the constitution from the local police to the federal government - just like Obama is doing now but you see no problem with that.
The difference between Bush and Obama is that Bush never could have imagined that any government body would use the Patriot Act for anything other than what it was intended to do - Bush never saw the slippery slope and highly underestimated those in government (or at least trusted them) that were liking their chops just waiting to use it to collect civilian domestic intelligence - just because the door was now open. Or those who saw the open door and figured they could use the cops as their own SS units.
I saw that from the beginning but it was Obama and the NSA, and bitches like Napolitano who get golf claps for lying and degrading and condemning guys like Edward Snowden that exposed the whole ****ing thing...
You don't want real transparency - you want talk of it - you want an authoritarian government that spies on you everyday just to make sure you're recycling and living a progressive lifestyle...
Those are individual choices people have to make NOT collective choices - then you're bewildered why I compare progressives to Stalin, Hitler, Mao etc....???
Last edited by Mr.Nick; 01-18-14 at 09:20 PM.
I hated it then, and I hate it now. What I see is that Obama = Bush. What you see is an opportunity to make excuses for your homie. Bush didn't have the foresight to recognize that it would be abused, and for some reason you seem to see that as a GOOD thing. I don't know where you get that.
But you go on putting words in my mouth. I guess it's easier to argue with the imaginary version of me in your head than to deal with reality.
Maybe for once the left and right should stop pointing fingers long enough to fix what most on both sides agree is a huge problem. The intolerance that prevents you from even agreeing and working together for a mutually beneficial cause is exactly what they count on. Who cares who is more to blame? It seems apparent to me that the government is going to work against our best interests regardless of who the president is. Did it ever occur to you that maybe both sides are wrong, and that it will only get worse as long as we allow the government to do whatever it wants while we fight over petty bull****?
But, hey, I've been around long enough to know that the government has been spying on US citizens for decades. The FISA court has been around since 1978, 35 years and counting. Uncle Sam has been looking over my shoulder most of my adult life - nothing new to see here.
Last edited by MoSurveyor; 01-19-14 at 02:17 AM.
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2: As for the Patriot Act I am just as much against it now as I was then because I knew that it would be abused eventually. And now we have proof of it being abused.
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