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    Re: Questions and answers about Obama’s new NSA rules

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's about as weak as criticism can get. Not much more than lip service.
    So anything less than pushing for impeachment or implying that he's Stalin is "lip service?"


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    Re: Questions and answers about Obama’s new NSA rules

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    So anything less than pushing for impeachment or implying that he's Stalin is "lip service?"
    Let's take a look at that question from the opposite directed at you shall we?

    So, anything more than a complete pass or complete fealty is unfair to you?
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    Re: Questions and answers about Obama’s new NSA rules

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    50/50. Bush put it there, Obama didn't kill it.
    That's not arguable.
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    Re: Questions and answers about Obama’s new NSA rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    That is the way it has always been. As long as it is my guy doing it, it is fine and okay. If your guy does the same thing, it is terribly wrong. For the die hards on each side, this is how they view their world. The deficits, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were bush's handed to Obama. They belonged to Bush until a certain time period goes by and then the present president inherits them and they become his. NSA and the patriot act fall into this line of thinking and now the sole responsibility rests with Obama. He could have killed them, he didn't, he now owns them.

    But let me say one other thing, the world of geopolitics and the security of the United States looks a whole lot different as a senator who shoulders only a little bit of the responsibility of taking care of the country. Geopolitics and national security takes on a whole new meaning when 100% of the responsibility of the country is now all on your shoulders.
    Then senators shouldn't make comments that they can't support and Americans should stop listening to them. like that's going to happen.
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    Re: Questions and answers about Obama’s new NSA rules

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    So anything less than pushing for impeachment or implying that he's Stalin is "lip service?"
    Well, as strongly as you've lashed out at this program in the past, your so valled criticism of Marse Barack is incredibly weak.
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    Re: Questions and answers about Obama’s new NSA rules

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It doesn't matter what side I'm on, then, or now. The fact is, the blame at this point lies squarely at Obama's doorstep and you people want to continue to blame Bush and Republican Congress critters.
    apdst? Do you believe that the next republican president is going to end this NSA program?
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    Re: Questions and answers about Obama’s new NSA rules

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ok, that's fair, but we don't have Bush in office, or any sort of power now, we have Obama, so at this moment, Obama is responsible for what HE is doing with this program.
    Sure. And the lefty partisans should be doing now with Obama what you and apdst should have been doing then with Bush. But you didn't, and they won't and more presidential corruption is a given.
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    Re: Questions and answers about Obama’s new NSA rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    apdst? Do you believe that the next republican president is going to end this NSA program?
    It's irrelevant, because Marse Barack is president, NOW.
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    Re: Questions and answers about Obama’s new NSA rules

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's irrelevant, because Marse Barack is president, NOW.
    Ok, lets make it relevant. I wish that partisan lefties and congress would smack his chops with impeachment over this and other things. Now then, do you believe that the next republican president will terminate this NSA program?
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    Re: Questions and answers about Obama’s new NSA rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Ok, lets make it relevant. I wish that partisan lefties and congress would smack his chops with impeachment over this and other things. Now then, do you believe that the next republican president will terminate this NSA program?
    Depends who it is.... a main stream Republican hell no. A Rand Paul --- he'd maybe want to do it, but I doubt he'd get support from anyone to do it.
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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