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    Re: Pennsylvania judge strikes down state's voter ID law

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    Simply not true, very few if any will risk years of their life for a one in millions vote. C'mon man, there is no evidence it is a big problem, it does not make sense it would be, yet the RW believes fervently in it. Oh wait, that does make sense, after all.
    Oh c'mon, pick any crime with a severe penalty and you'll find people committing said crime anyway. As for that last, I really thought you had a better grasp on American history. Start with Tammany Hall and head right on through the Chicago political machine in modern history. The denial is what makes no sense given what we KNOW.
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    Re: Pennsylvania judge strikes down state's voter ID law

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Covered under the fact that she's gonna have trouble with ANY activity that requires ID and that she, as a judge, should know she has to fix most riki tik. Really, using herself as an example just illustrates she doesn't belong in the position she's in.

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    Re: Pennsylvania judge strikes down state's voter ID law

    There are up sides to most crimes, ever heard of a crack head getting all stoned, looking at his cracked out buddy and saying, "hey, lets go vote." Show me some real evidence I will change my mind. There is just too few voter frauds to worry about. But of course not allowing many that can legally vote not too, if they are Democrats, well...
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    Oh c'mon, pick any crime with a severe penalty and you'll find people committing said crime anyway. As for that last, I really thought you had a better grasp on American history. Start with Tammany Hall and head right on through the Chicago political machine in modern history. The denial is what majes no sense given what we KNOW.
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    Re: Pennsylvania judge strikes down state's voter ID law

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Of course it does. Voter laws are supposed to ensure that everybody gets to vote, not to Jim Crow the vote for some. And about this lame argument that Jim Crowing the vote stops voter fraud, show me proof that there was enough voter fraud in ANY election to change the outcome of that election. And when I say proof, I don't mean show some talking head on FOX News claiming voter fraud. Show me the hard numbers FROM A REPUTABLE SOURCE, not Breitbart, which has been caught time and time again making crap up. Good luck with that.

    Finally, I must say that, if a political party is so desperate to remain relevant that they have to resort to Jim Crow to attempt to win elections, then there is a problem with that party. At least, at this time, the mainstream Republicans are fighting the good fight to wrest control of the party back from the wackos that hijacked it, and that's a good sign. The Republican party does not need Tea Partiers or any other kind of "Confederate" in the party. With reasonable ideas, the GOP will stick around a long time, and make important contributions to America's political process.

    Article is here.
    AWESOME!!!!

    Proud of my home state on this one, seems we have gotten somethings right lately over the years.

    But let me say im all in favor of voter ID laws IF they fall into the right category and in general PAs wasnt bad when just talkign about the ID part, it was actually pretty good:
    Act of Mar. 14, 2012,P.L. 195, No. 18 Cl. 25 - PENNSYLVANIA ELECTION CODE - OMNIBUS AMENDMENTS

    With that said im still glad this was dropped and it will probably go to SCOTUS, if people want to push for ID laws SCOTUS is where they should go and they should all conform and be the same nationally.

    ID laws are great in my opinion if:

    the ID is free and readily available (DMV, Post office, Court Houses, etc) including at the poll places
    Other IDs are acceptable (any FEDERAL ID, STATE ID, State Municipality ID, State accredited institute of higher learning ID)
    Votes are ALWAYS allowed to be cast but are just flagged and segregated for further processing

    the issues with many Voter ID laws are they are piggy backed with new rules for voting like no voting on sundays, no early voting, no absentee voting, closing polling places, limiting the operating hours of certain/all polls, identical name on id and voter registration of the vote doesnt can or you can vote crap and reorganizing districts.

    THAT is 100% unacceptable

    so if theres going to be voter ID laws im all for it just follow the rules and make the law about . . . . .(wait for it) . . . (wait for it) . . . . .VOTER ID! lol

    if not its not wanted
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    Re: Pennsylvania judge strikes down state's voter ID law

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    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    AWESOME!!!!

    Proud of my home state on this one, seems we have gotten somethings right lately over the years.

    But let me say im all in favor of voter ID laws IF they fall into the right category and in general PAs was bad when just talkign about the ID part, it was actually pretty good:
    Act of Mar. 14, 2012,P.L. 195, No. 18 Cl. 25 - PENNSYLVANIA ELECTION CODE - OMNIBUS AMENDMENTS

    With that said im still glad this was dropped and it will probably go to SCOTUS, if people want to push for ID laws SCOTUS is where they should go and they should all conform and be the same nationally.

    ID laws are great in my opinion if:

    the ID is free and readily available (DMV, Post office, Court Houses, etc) including at the poll places
    Other IDs are acceptable (any FEDERAL ID, STATE ID, State Municipality ID, State accredited institute of higher learning ID)
    Votes are ALWAYS allowed to be cast but are just flagged and segregated for further processing

    the issues with many Voter ID laws are they are piggy backed with new rules for voting like no voting on sundays, no early voting, no absentee voting, closing polling places, limiting the operating hours of certain/all polls and reorganizing districts.

    THAT is 100% unacceptable

    so if theres going to be voter ID laws im al for it just follow the rules and make the law about . . . . .(wait for it) . . . (wait for it) . . . . .VOTER ID! lol

    if not its not wanted
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    Re: Pennsylvania judge strikes down state's voter ID law

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Covered under the fact that she's gonna have trouble with ANY activity that requires ID and that she, as a judge, should know she has to fix most riki tik. Really, using herself as an example just illustrates she doesn't belong in the position she's in.
    she was able to vote for 50 years and i don't see how having her maiden name for her drivers license but her registration form using her actual middle name should prevent her from voting.
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    Re: Pennsylvania judge strikes down state's voter ID law

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    There are up sides to most crimes, ever heard of a crack head getting all stoned, looking at his cracked out buddy and saying, "hey, lets go vote." Show me some real evidence I will change my mind. There is just too few voter frauds to worry about. But of course not allowing many that can legally vote not too, if they are Democrats, well...
    Again your opinion is debunked by history. You want evidence? Study American history. There is a reason for longtime political quotes such as, "In Chicago the dead vote democratic".

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    Re: Pennsylvania judge strikes down state's voter ID law

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Of course it does. Voter laws are supposed to ensure that everybody gets to vote, not to Jim Crow the vote for some. And about this lame argument that Jim Crowing the vote stops voter fraud, show me proof that there was enough voter fraud in ANY election to change the outcome of that election. And when I say proof, I don't mean show some talking head on FOX News claiming voter fraud. Show me the hard numbers FROM A REPUTABLE SOURCE, not Breitbart, which has been caught time and time again making crap up. Good luck with that.

    Finally, I must say that, if a political party is so desperate to remain relevant that they have to resort to Jim Crow to attempt to win elections, then there is a problem with that party. At least, at this time, the mainstream Republicans are fighting the good fight to wrest control of the party back from the wackos that hijacked it, and that's a good sign. The Republican party does not need Tea Partiers or any other kind of "Confederate" in the party. With reasonable ideas, the GOP will stick around a long time, and make important contributions to America's political process.

    Article is here.

    While I don't particularly like voter ID laws because I think they're motivated by prejudice, I also don't like it when judges overrule the will of the people because who gave them that right?

    We're either a democracy or we aren't, and rulings like this are by definition un-democratic.

    I would rather live with a law that I don't like, that's my personal opinion.

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    Re: Pennsylvania judge strikes down state's voter ID law

    Study American history? Actually I was asking for examples of voter fraud, you of course have none except "longtime political quotes" so you tell me to read. Who is in denial?
    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Again your opinion is debunked by history. You want evidence? Study American history. There is a reason for longtime political quotes such as, "In Chicago the dead vote democratic".
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    Re: Pennsylvania judge strikes down state's voter ID law

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    she was able to vote for 50 years and i don't see how having her maiden name for her drivers license but her registration form using her actual middle name should prevent her from voting.
    The same reason she shouldn't be a judge - the law. It's her job to know it. But really, and again for the thousandth time, she faces this same thing with any other official activity that requires ID. This isn't new, it's just her wanting a special case where she doesn't have to follow the rules of registration. Notice, she lies to the DMV, isn't that a crime?

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