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    Presidential Address on NSA Data Collection

    Breaking on the telly. Looks like thus far he's going to pretty much keep the programs. Articles sure to follow.

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    Re: Presidential Address on NSA Data Collection

    WASHINGTON — President Obama will require intelligence agencies to obtain permission from a secret court before tapping into a vast trove of telephone data, but he will leave the data in the hands of the government for now, an administration official said.

    Mr. Obama, in a much-anticipated speech on Friday morning, plans to announce that he is pulling back the government’s wide net of surveillance at home and abroad, staking out a middle ground between the far-reaching proposals of his own advisers and the concerns of the nation’s intelligence agencies.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/18/us...y.html?hp&_r=0

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    Re: Presidential Address on NSA Data Collection

    They have a funny definition of middle ground.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Presidential Address on NSA Data Collection

    I did enjoy the swipes at China and Russia.

    But the idea of extending American' citizens protections to foreign populaces..... I am mulling that one. It seems.... contradictory.

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    Re: Presidential Address on NSA Data Collection

    Obama was against it before he was for it. Views change with circumstances. It would be remarkable if they didn't, I suppose.

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    Re: Presidential Address on NSA Data Collection

    "permission from a secret court"

    Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Secret Court. That's a good one!

    My cats have a secret court that is very flexible.

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    Re: Presidential Address on NSA Data Collection

    "It's not broken, so I'm not going to fix it, but we're certainly going to provide more constitutional protections to foreign citizens".
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Presidential Address on NSA Data Collection

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    "It's not broken, so I'm not going to fix it, but we're certainly going to provide more constitutional protections to foreign citizens".
    What does that even mean?

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    Re: Presidential Address on NSA Data Collection

    Basically what I gathered is Obama saying, "Next time we won't get caught"
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    Re: Presidential Address on NSA Data Collection

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    What does that even mean?
    I means, "we know you the people don't like this, but tough ****. This is more about placating Andrea Merkel than honoring my oath to defend and uphold the constitution. Because I can detain any citizen indefinitely without due process... but there sure are a lot of foreigners who don't like this."
    Haymarket's "support" of the 2nd Amendment, a right he believes we never had.
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    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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