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    Re: Senate report: Attacks in Benghazi could have been prevented

    The bigger point is do not overturn a regime that is an ally against Salafist or AQ groups/ Qaddafi for all his faults, warned that if we overthrew his regime ,
    the country would be a terrorist state. More exactly:

    For years, Mr. Gaddafi warned of radical Islamists bubbling below the surface in north Africa. Repeatedly, he proclaimed himself a “stalwart of stability.”

    Through imprisonment and violence, the jihadists were suppressed, starved of influence and resources

    Before he was overthrown and killed, Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddafi warned jihadists would conquer northern Africa

    During the dying days of his four decade rule, Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddafi cast an ominous prophecy.
    If his regime fell, jihadists would subjugate northern Africa, inflicting widespread violence and terror.

    Mr. Gaddafi declared in a speech weeks before NATO began its military intervention in Libya:

    Al-Qaeda considers all the people to be infidels,”

    “They deem all people their enemies. They know nothing but killing.”

    The Islamists would pour in from Afghanistan, Algeria, and Egypt, he warned, saying, “These are beasts with turbans.”

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    Re: Senate report: Attacks in Benghazi could have been prevented

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Though it will likely never reach the level of what many Obama critics want it to reach.
    I'm a critic. I'm sure we have plenty to talk about.

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    Re: Senate report: Attacks in Benghazi could have been prevented

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    He and other folks should be held responsible, things like "Agencies not communicating with each other" which prevented intelligence from being shared and perhaps prevented the State Department from having as much warning about these attacks as it should have is exactly where we should be looking and holding people responsible, President not excluded.

    But the idea that Obama, less than two months before an election, would literally make a decision to "let" four Americans die because for God knows what reasons is just plain silly. I use the word 'let' because I'm trying to especially highlight the argument that it was a specific conscious decision on his part to not save these people when it was in his power. It makes no sense whatsoever from either a pragmatic standpoint, again what looks better 2 months before an election a heroic save or 4 deaths, or a human standpoint that any human would just four guys die because he's that much of an asshole.
    well, because the administration refuses to release what the President was doing at the time, or fully describe for us what he knew and when he knew it, we don't really know if he made any decisions during the attack. Given the stand-down of the rescue efforts, however, it seems likely that someone with the authority to impose their decision over both the State and the Defense Departments made the calculation that the possibility that the facility could hold out was greater than the risk of a potential blackhawk-down style scenario. We just don't know who that person was because for some reason the Administration decided to instantly clamp as much silence on those who partook in the events as possible while going on television and deliberately lying to the American people by claiming it was a youtube video when they knew that was not correct.

    So someone made these decisions. We've learned that the "youtube video" narrative got added by White House aids over the (muted) objections of the CIA and against the advice of the SecDef and JCoS. Whether they were acting with or without direction is unknown (because, again, the Administration refuses to release the particulars), however, I'd be willing to accept that White House aids in the middle of an election were more concerned with that election than they were with getting the Benghazi story right. In that case, those aids should be identified and fired (though no one has). But White House Aids don't have the authority to stand-down Tier-One Special Mission Units.
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    Re: Senate report: Attacks in Benghazi could have been prevented

    Who made the decision to ignore the Ambassador's cables?

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    Re: Senate report: Attacks in Benghazi could have been prevented

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    I'm a critic. I'm sure we have plenty to talk about.
    I agree humbolt, there is plenty to talk about. Problem is, the talking is going nowhere. I'm sick and tired of everyone dancing to the tune of "political correctness", including many Republicans. Lies abound everywhere on this issue and accountability should include names. Conservative politicians had better wake up and take control of some of these issues or they can forget about 2014 and 2016!

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    Re: Senate report: Attacks in Benghazi could have been prevented

    Quote Originally Posted by Mizmo View Post
    I agree humbolt, there is plenty to talk about. Problem is, the talking is going nowhere. I'm sick and tired of everyone dancing to the tune of "political correctness", including many Republicans. Lies abound everywhere on this issue and accountability should include names. Conservative politicians had better wake up and take control of some of these issues or they can forget about 2014 and 2016!
    I want people named, too. The general line from the administration once the first lie was uncovered has been that the "system" malfunctioned. That's a complete line of BS in order to avoid culpability. I don't want the people responsible in government in any role at all, ever. That includes Mrs. Clinton.

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    Re: Senate report: Attacks in Benghazi could have been prevented

    It begins with former Secretary of State Clinton.

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    Re: Senate report: Attacks in Benghazi could have been prevented

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    I'm a critic. I'm sure we have plenty to talk about.
    Anything you like.

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    Re: Senate report: Attacks in Benghazi could have been prevented

    If anyone's head should roll for this terrible tragedy it is the wicked witch from the west Hillary and further proves how unqualified she is to be POTUS.
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    Re: Senate report: Attacks in Benghazi could have been prevented

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I quite agree.

    As for the no names, I'm sure the parties know who they are. And Hillary does have a major role in that. I seem to recall she even stated that herself. So I don't think this is shocking.

    I do find this important: The report found no evidence of the kind of political coverup that Republicans have long alleged.
    I think it was pretty obvious they were at least downplaying the attack as much as possible before the presidential election. Wouldn't you agree? In that context, it at least wasn't treated with the seriousness it deserved from the administration.

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