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    Re: Senate report: Attacks in Benghazi could have been prevented

    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    agreed. Look at Iraq, ISIL (Islamic State of Iraq and Levant) coming back from Syria (so called "spillover), attempting a caliphate across the borders of the 2 states.

    al- Malaki is asking for Apache helicopters; and he prolly will need them, as Anwar province ( Fallujah / Ramadi) are a back and forth battle between Iraq forces, and these terrorist groups.
    al-Malaki is a Shi'a, - supposed to be president, but he's more interested in keeping the sectarian strife alive, by marginalizing the Sunni's.

    I'd sure like someone to tell me WT **** we accomplished in Iraq, and what we will "accomplish" in Afganistan
    Destabilization!!!!
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Senate report: Attacks in Benghazi could have been prevented

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I'm not arguing to look the other way. Only about being honest concerning the comparison.
    George Bush started the destabilization of the ME, Obama has furthered it, I see no value in pointing at one being worse than the other.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Senate report: Attacks in Benghazi could have been prevented

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I'm not partisan dude. I have NO problem condemning both presidents for their wrongs. And I don't make a distinction between one president going to war on false pretenses and another doing the same.
    So you say. But you do ignore real differences.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Senate report: Attacks in Benghazi could have been prevented

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    George Bush started the destabilization of the ME, Obama has furthered it, I see no value in pointing at one being worse than the other.
    Unless you want to minimize the worse act in comparison.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Senate report: Attacks in Benghazi could have been prevented

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Unless you want to minimize the worse act in comparison.
    I don't minimize any presidents foreign policy sins, none.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Senate report: Attacks in Benghazi could have been prevented

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    So you say. But you do ignore real differences.
    I haven't ignored the differences between Iraq and Libya. I just consider the similarities to be paramount. That once again the US attacked a country that had not threatened or harmed us, at all. When is that **** going to stop?
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Senate report: Attacks in Benghazi could have been prevented

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I don't minimize any presidents foreign policy sins, none.
    You do when you consider them all equal.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Senate report: Attacks in Benghazi could have been prevented

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I haven't ignored the differences between Iraq and Libya. I just consider the similarities to be paramount. That once again the US attacked a country that had not threatened or harmed us, at all. When is that **** going to stop?
    I do think that should stop, god yes. But, they are not the same. Not even close.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Senate report: Attacks in Benghazi could have been prevented

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You do when you consider them all equal.
    Stop it Boo! I never said they were all equal. I said there are differences between the two, but in my opinion, its the similarities that should be focused on. It's your partisan eyes that just have to hold Obama at a higher esteem than Bush. I'm far more critical of Bush then you ever thought of being, but Bush is over half a decade gone!!! Obama is the man that must be stopped now. But you go ahead and keep pointing your partisan finger at Bush and see how far that gets us reigning in Obama. JFC partisan's guarantee nothing will ever get fixed.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Senate report: Attacks in Benghazi could have been prevented

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Stop it Boo! I never said they were all equal. I said there are differences between the two, but in my opinion, its the similarities that should be focused on. It's your partisan eyes that just have to hold Obama at a higher esteem than Bush. I'm far more critical of Bush then you ever thought of being, but Bush is over half a decade gone!!! Obama is the man that must be stopped now. But you go ahead and keep pointing your partisan finger at Bush and see how far that gets us reigning in Obama. JFC partisan's guarantee nothing will ever get fixed.
    The comment was meant to encompass more than you. Others clearly use it to diminish, and they are the universial you.

    Bush my be gone, but his legacy is in going. As a realist, I know that no one had the ability to make everything right again after he invaded. Any good there will be bore by the Iraq people. They and only they can turn that mistake into something positive.

    Also as a realist, I know conflicts and actions I disagree with will happen. Doing them at minimal cost is better that maximum cost. Still wrong, but significantly better.

    We agree both are wrong. Left at that, there us no debate between us. However, when anyone say it is the same as bush, which is where I believe this discussion started, I have to disagree.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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