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    Re: Senate report: Attacks in Benghazi could have been prevented

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    And I don't. That's what I said.
    You miss the point. When something IS so, you don't have to pretend it is so.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Senate report: Attacks in Benghazi could have been prevented

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Didn't say it was justified. I said it didn't go as far, and there was more international support. These are real differences.
    There was as much or more international support for Iraq then Libya. Do we have to bring out all the numbers, AGAIN!?!? And no it didn't go as far, but again Boo, your partisan eyes are ignoring the fact that it didn't go as far because it didn't need to go as far to meet US objectives, not because we have a more benevolent White House.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Senate report: Attacks in Benghazi could have been prevented

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    If you look at the threads back then you should find me saying he was wrong.
    I understand that, you've said it in this thread, albeit with the caveat that he wasn't as wrong as Bush, leave that off and it's perfect.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Senate report: Attacks in Benghazi could have been prevented

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Yes, and such covert stuff has a long history ore dating both Bush and Obama.

    And they were all wrong as far as I can see. But that's another issue and don't make any of them the same.
    White House covert activities go back to at least the Jefferson administration. Because two wrongs equal a right, this continues.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Senate report: Attacks in Benghazi could have been prevented

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You mustn't forget that during hostilities in Libya, the CIA was operating a facility in Benghazi, (smuggling we call it when it's "unauthorized") delivering arms to the Syrian opposition, in a covert attempt to help facilitate "regime change" in Syria,
    So what? One cannot attack the operations of other countries in the US just because one does not personally agree with them. Are you justifying terrorism via anarchy and fantasy morality?

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    Re: Senate report: Attacks in Benghazi could have been prevented

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Boo, your partisan eyes are ignoring the fact that it didn't go as far because it didn't need to go as far to meet US objectives, not because we have a more benevolent White House.

    Of course, because the US is the Great Satan!

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    Re: Senate report: Attacks in Benghazi could have been prevented

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Eager? No, I think that is over exaggeration on its face. Remember, Bush went to the UN countless times, and got at least 3 resolutions leading up to the conflict threatening Saddam. All of which were mocked by actions of misdirection, and misleading UN inspectors.

    Also, remember that most of our wars were entered into by demo's, this one is unusual in the scheme of war history in America. But with that said, has anyone ever reported the signature of the chem weapons used in Syria? See, it's just my opinion, but I think that some of those were Iraqi, and this whole "peace" process there is to cover that up.
    I said the White House, j-mac! GWB in particular, was the kind of guy that hated the formalities and time of going through systems, securing authorizations and listening to advice. After his election, but before he was sworn in, he made the statement that if this was a dictatorship, his job would be a lot easier!! He made the statement a time or two after he was president, too. He just had it in his head that he knew what was right and if he could act unilaterally (like the dictators he criticized, and wanted to take out), he could get things done. If only the lawyers, the democrats, the UN, international law, the god damn constitution, whatever stood in his way, would get beside him, or get behind him, he could call, "mission accomplished" more often and much faster.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Senate report: Attacks in Benghazi could have been prevented

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I said the White House, j-mac! GWB in particular, was the kind of guy that hated the formalities and time of going through systems, securing authorizations and listening to advice. After his election, but before he was sworn in, he made the statement that if this was a dictatorship, his job would be a lot easier!! He made the statement a time or two after he was president, too. He just had it in his head that he knew what was right and if he could act unilaterally (like the dictators he criticized, and wanted to take out), he could get things done. If only the lawyers, the democrats, the UN, international law, the god damn constitution, whatever stood in his way, would get beside him, or get behind him, he could call, "mission accomplished" more often and much faster.
    If Bush's goals were to create a dictatorship I really have to question his decision to step down after 8 years.
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    Re: Senate report: Attacks in Benghazi could have been prevented

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    If Bush's goals were to create a dictatorship I really have to question his decision to step down after 8 years.
    I never said he had the "goal of creating a dictatorship". But do you deny he mused that such would disencumber him from getting his agenda through. Or that he was frustrated with his advisors when they pointed to things like our constitution, IL or the opposition party?
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Senate report: Attacks in Benghazi could have been prevented

    Obama was informed this was a terrorist attack.

    Obama was briefed on the Benghazi terrorist attack minutes after the assault began. The new evidence, Rosen said, raises questions about why the Obama administration was allowed to present a false narrative about a video for two weeks.

    Gen. Carter Ham, then head of AFRICOM, the Defense Department combatant command with jurisdiction over Libya, told a House panel last year in classified testimony that he broke the news of the attack to then-Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and Gen. Martin Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

    Report says Obama knew Benghazi was a terror attack, lied about video - Spokane Conservative | Examiner.com

    I can't c/p any more because of fair use. There is some evidence Mike Morrel (CIA) massaged the info away It is all very obscured, and takes diligence to wade thru it all.

    What difference does it make at this point?" the answer IS if Bengazi wouldn't have happened, we'd be left with the false narrative the WH was pushing that the "video did it"

    Read thru the Senate Intelligence committee report, there isn't a smoking gun, but it's clear the data was manipulated
    Panetta told the Senate last February it was him who informed Obama about the attack.

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