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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Oh, so now you are changing your tune, after the fact? Let me answer for you, no the argument is not that Obama is the first president to use executive orders or signing statements. You're argument is being attacked because of your ridiculous over the top rhetoric and now you're trying to walk it back because you've humiliated yourself.

    Speaking of legitimate points, when do you plan to make one?
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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    try.
    If only you would. Which signing statement exemplifies Obama's powergrab the most, praytell?
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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    If only you would. Which signing statement exemplifies Obama's powergrab the most, praytell?
    How about the dream act, for one? Which Congress did not pass.
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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Can you point out the law that bans executive orders, signing statements, and presidential action?
    No. Can you point to where I said a President can't use executive orders?
    And can you answer my questions?
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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Oh, so now you are changing your tune, after the fact? Let me answer for you, no I did not quote him. You were mistaken.
    What tune is changing?

    You directly claimed that he declared he is going to take power from congress and make laws himself.

    That is not true, he made no such declaration.

    That's what I said in my first post, that's what I said in my next post.

    So because you didn't DIRECTLY quote him it's fine to say he declared something he didn't do.

    Alright. Cool. Anthony60 just declared he doesn't know how to make an argument and that no one should bother to listen to anything he says.

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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    How about the dream act, for one? Which Congress did not pass.
    If it didn't pass, how did he issue a signing statement? That's something that is sometimes issued when the President signs something into law.


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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    Yea! I hate it when a President wants "make sure our kids are getting the best education possible". And nothing pisses me off more than a President who wants to be "making sure that our businesses are getting the kind of support and help they need to grow and advance". And I'll be damned if I am going to sit idle when a president wants "to make sure that people are getting the skills that they need to get those jobs that our businesses are creating.”

    Well, you're fine with him bypassing the legislative branch....

    Will you be crying when a far right pres starts imposing his own will (which of course won't match your agenda)?

    What's good for the goose, is good for the gander, right?

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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelJR View Post
    Well, you're fine with him bypassing the legislative branch....

    Will you be crying when a far right pres starts imposing his own will (which of course won't match your agenda)?

    What's good for the goose, is good for the gander, right?
    As fine as I am with any other president doing it. The fact is the people of this country allowed the executive branch to get this much power, then we elected Obama. He did these same things and we reelected him. The people of this country spoke and this is what we chose. Beyond that doing nothing other than arguing is not going to fix anything. If Obama has a plan to do the things he is claiming he can do then denying it based solely on the fact that he is Obama or a democrat is retarded. 2 of the 3 major branches of the government were elected to be run by democrats. We put them their because we wanted change and the only way it can work or fail is to try it. But the people have spoken. He has that power, it has been deemed more than once constitutional and legal.

    Furthermore you don't know what my agenda is, but unlike many it is not driven by bi partisan politics.
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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    What tune is changing?

    You directly claimed that he declared he is going to take power from congress and make laws himself.
    I didn't quote him as saying that, I explained what he was saying. The jerk just basically said he would do Congress's job, which he does not have the power to do.

    That is not true, he made no such declaration.
    He did, I don't see how it could be interpreted as anything else.

    That's what I said in my first post, that's what I said in my next post.
    So because you didn't DIRECTLY quote him it's fine to say he declared something he didn't do.
    I think there is very little doubt about what he was saying


    Alright. Cool. Anthony60 just declared he doesn't know how to make an argument and that no one should bother to listen to anything he says.
    I guess you are just showing everyone that you like to strech the true and tell lies about other posters, namely, me. I'd tone down the personal attacks.
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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Executive Orders by recent Presidents

    Obama-165 (5 years)
    Bush-290
    Clinton-363
    Bush Sr (one term) 165
    Reagan- 380

    Just a bit of perspective.
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