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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    I'm down about our government but I'm not in fear of Rome in her last days though. I think we have a rebounding/restructuring ability that Rome didn't even if we do hit rock bottom.
    That's optimistic anyway.
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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    : The disgusting thing about this is that the envy and hatred are being deliberately cultivated and encouraged to further an agenda of pitting people against each other! The Obama duo are millionaires, too, but you never hear about that when the wealthy are being denigrated! :

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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    The idea that rich people are being persecuted or denigrated in this country is weapons-grade bull****.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Seems to me that everyone should some sort sort of skin in the game, even if it's a little bit, but what we have here is the successful and hardest working being punitively punished for their success to enable nearly 1/2 of the population to receive checks from the government without sending any money in. Are we really in this together? It this really shared sacrifice?

    Hardly seems so. Seems pretty one sided to me, all at the behest of the 'food stamp president', no telling how much fraud, as the government seems to have pretty much given up on that.
    Again, there are other taxes, so there's plenty of skin in the game. Taxes for that 40% have largely shrank! and not grown. In the process, less people are making enough to join them (that is part of the problem). Cutting taxes by and large hasn't brought about nirvana. And no one is punished fir hard work. Those of us doing well live quite well. There's no burden, no hardship. That's why there's no trading places going on.

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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Again, there are other taxes, so there's plenty of skin in the game. Taxes for that 40% have largely shrank! and not grown. In the process, less people are making enough to join them (that is part of the problem). Cutting taxes by and large hasn't brought about nirvana. And no one is punished fir hard work. Those of us doing well live quite well. There's no burden, no hardship. That's why there's no trading places going on.
    As hard as cutting spending is resisted by this administration, it's clear that fiscal responsibility isn't going to have even a chance until the next president, and perhaps not even then.

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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    As hard as cutting spending is resisted by this administration, it's clear that fiscal responsibility isn't going to have even a chance until the next president, and perhaps not even then.
    Well, both parties resist cutting spending. If there us any difference, it's what they spend on. But that's another issue.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    The idea that rich people are being persecuted or denigrated in this country is weapons-grade bull****.
    the denial that the Democratic party panders to the losers and the have nots by bashing the successful is equal tsunami level garbage



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    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the denial that the Democratic party panders to the losers and the have nots by bashing the successful is equal tsunami level garbage
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    I will take Is that a concession for 1000 Alex



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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    As hard as cutting spending is resisted by this administration, it's clear that fiscal responsibility isn't going to have even a chance until the next president, and perhaps not even then.
    Problem is mainstream economist don't agree with you or the TP crowd.

    "This view contrasts with that held by most economists, which will be referred to as “mainstream economics.” Mainstream economics relies on a basic theory regarding policies to expand the economy in a downturn. This theory can be found in economics textbooks and is used by government and private forecasters to project the path of the economy.3 This view has been the basis for fiscal and monetary policy interventions to stimulate the economy for many years, under both Republican and Democratic administrations. Chairman Bernanke of the Federal Reserve was referring to this view when he cautioned against large and immediate spending cuts.4 The basic thrust of the model for fiscal policy is that increasing the deficit (whether by increasing spending or cutting taxes) expands an underemployed economy, and decreasing the deficit (cutting spending or raising taxes) contracts it. https://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R41849.pdf

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