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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    He's Stalin because his passive actions emulate Stalin's blunt actions.
    Exaggerate much?

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Now you just reversed what ground we made agreeing that partisan members of both parties have enabled their presidents to violate our constitution and that unless we arrest that, nothing will ever change. Your back to singling out democrats, and as pointed to by me at length, while I'm not defending the president, BOTH are guilty. When is THAT bull going to be taken by the horns??
    What reversal? Both side contribute to the over spending, too large government. The dems just are more overt about it.
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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Right. There's practically no difference between lightning and a lightning bug.
    The intent is all the same...

    I suppose Hitler was a "lightning bug" at one point (if you know anything about Hitler or History) - yet his intent was there all along - he just used progress to achieve his goals, and he was democratically elected to boot.

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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Exaggerate much?
    I'm not exaggerating anything...

    I said Obama was passive and Stalin was blunt....

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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    How long did the GOP block nominations? That would have suddenly changed after the recess?
    Oh I would say probably no more or less than the Democrats who invented the tactic of staying in session through traditional holidays back when Bush was President.

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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    What reversal? Both side contribute to the over spending, too large government. The dems just are more overt about it.
    As soon as you frame the problem of executive orders that pass into law outside of congress as worse by one party then the other, the focus on what to do to fix is lost and we have thread after thread that is nothing more than finger pointing. Nothing can be fixed.
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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I'm not exaggerating anything...

    I said Obama was passive and Stalin was blunt....
    Any comparison is an exaggeration. A wild eyed exaggeration.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Thank you. It only took 3 days and 240+ posts. I'm not singling you out. Just pointing out the disparity in rhetoric vs action of Obama and how the people screaming loudest about this couldn't actually think up any examples. Rage before reason.
    Well, to be fair, you are attempting to move the goalpost. The OP and others are saying that the actions that the President is implicitly threatening to take would be Unconstitutional, and your response seems to be that it has not yet been ruled so. That's like saying that it's not wrong of me to plan to rape someone because I haven't been convicted yet.

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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Any comparison is an exaggeration. A wild eyed exaggeration.
    How you figure? intent is all that matters.

    Is there any difference between a woman who poisons her husband over a 3 year period to the point of his death or a woman who just shoots her husband with a gun and kills him or stabs him to death??

    Or are we just talking exaggeration(s) here or apples and oranges?

    The end result is all that matters - not the means or the contempt but the result of those feelings or ideas.

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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    How you figure? intent is all that matters.

    Is there any difference between a woman who poisons her husband over a 3 year period to the point of his death or a woman who just shoots her husband with a gun and kills him or stabs him to death??

    Or are we just talking exaggeration(s) here or apples and oranges?

    The end result is all that matters - not the means or the contempt but the result of those feelings or ideas.
    You have to prove intent and not just make wild guess before you can go on to anything else.

    And there is nothing but wild exaggerations of what is going on that that leads you to such a comparison. So, once you start with the inaccurate belief, you then blow it beyond. reason. There is no real comparison. To use your comparison, what we have is at worse, a poor cook being compared to a murderer. That is hardly a valid comparison.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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