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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    We're 240 posts in and nobody has claimed WHAT OBAMA HAS DONE THAT'S BEEN RULED UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
    Nobody here is claiming it's been ruled unconstitutional, that is not the point. It doesn't have to be ruled unconstitutional to be offensive, dangerous, and a loss of liberty. The SC found a way to allow Obamacare to stay, but no one can legitimately argue that you lost the right to decide not to buy healthcare.
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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Bush is no where near as insane and radical as Obama - Obama is a Stalin cloaked in a US flag.

    I was no fan of Bush myself - especially after the Patriot Act, however I would rather have Bush as president presently than Obama. If I had to choose between the two.




    Hell, if that bitch, her husband, Eric Holder, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, the NBPP and the other radical non-white groups plus the self loathing progressives could actually do it - THEY WOULD DO IT....




    Obama has done NO NEGOTIATING - Obama has pretty much said: "this is what I want - give it to me or else I will blame you" - so there is no diplomacy there - EVER!



    Obama doesn't have to sign many executive orders and I'll tell you why. Because Obama has appointed tyrants to do his dirty work for him - including SCOTUS justices and district judges....

    The guy can do whatever the **** he wants outside of amending the constitution - something he doesn't even need to do considering he can sign an executive order...

    Obama has set up a progressive socialist monopoly.....

    The worst of all of it is that he is completely ignoring the Constitution because he knows Holder wont hold him accountable for anything....

    That's why Obama is on TV right now admitting to domestic spying - meanwhile you're bashing Bush....
    He's Stalin because he made appointments during the recess?

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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Obama only wishes he was a dictator, and if he had it his way he would insert himself as president for life and do away with our founding documents. As a matter of fact I would be that 30-40% of progressives would love to see that happen.

    Circumventing congress should be the last act of a president to resolve an issue, not the first - and not for reasons of social policy either...

    Obama is a POS that abuses his power, and I cant believe any "libertarian" in their so called mind would defend such a tyrant.

    Furthermore, it's not Obama himself that is turning this country into a North Korea or Saudi Arabia - it's those who he appointed (circumventing democracy) into key positions, and those appointees who appointed others who are making a lot of these policies.
    Lol not calling Obama a dictator is defending him?

    Only in the warped mind of a conservative like you hiding behind a libertarian label would think that not calling Obama a dictator is defending him. I've criticized Obama and have called him a horrible president but a dictator he is not. Try again slick your old and tired rhetoric is getting boring.

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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    He's Stalin because he made appointments during the recess?
    He's Stalin because his passive actions emulate Stalin's blunt actions.

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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    but no one can legitimately argue that you lost the right to decide not to buy healthcare.
    I can choose not to buy insurance by paying a tax. I still have the right to refuse to give money to insurance companies.
    Trump Attacked A Syrian Airfield. Trump will be a one-term president.

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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Lol not calling Obama a dictator is defending him?

    Only in the warped mind of a conservative like you hiding behind a libertarian label would think that not calling Obama a dictator is defending him. I've criticized Obama and have called him a horrible president but a dictator he is not. Try again slick your old and tired rhetoric is getting boring.
    I never even attempted to call him a dictator - he is obviously NOT a dictator by definition, what I implied is that if HE COULD BE he would welcome the opportunity to continue his "progressive change."

    BTW, I'm the libertarian - you're not!

    You keep on siding with government over and over again - supporting big government ****s like Obama and his epic bull**** games he plays that he believes no one understands because the media doesn't report half the **** he does that makes him look like the tyrannical **** he is...

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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Nobody here is claiming it's been ruled unconstitutional, that is not the point. It doesn't have to be ruled unconstitutional to be offensive, dangerous, and a loss of liberty. The SC found a way to allow Obamacare to stay, but no one can legitimately argue that you lost the right to decide not to buy healthcare.
    Nobody except this guy. He's making you look bad. You should make him change his stance before someone thinks you all think like him.
    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Of all the threads here, this one is the most important. He just declared that he is going to take power from Congress and make laws himself, a clear violation of separation of powers. In fact, clearly a power that the President does not have. This is what dictators do. A bit of coupe, if I may be so bold. The sad part is that the media, the left, and even most of the right are sitting by silently while this happens before our eyes.

    This is not a Democrat v. Republican issue. It's a Constitutional and liberty issue.
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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I never even attempted to call him a dictator - he is obviously NOT a dictator by definition, what I implied is that if HE COULD BE he would welcome the opportunity to continue his "progressive change."
    So now you're playing "what-if" games? Whatever, your opinion is noted and discarded as worthless conservative rhetoric.

    Btw your "what-if" game should also include Bush since he said it would be easier if he were a dictator.

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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    He's Stalin because his passive actions emulate Stalin's blunt actions.
    Right. There's practically no difference between lightning and a lightning bug.
    Trump Attacked A Syrian Airfield. Trump will be a one-term president.

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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    He's Stalin because his passive actions emulate Stalin's blunt actions.
    Well, to ease your racing mind, he's signed less executive orders than any other president in the past 100 (actually more) years. Here: Obama: Fewest Executive Orders in Over 100 Years -- Daily Intelligencer

    And about those nominations:

    This extraordinary decision would have nullified decades of NLRB appointments. President Carter made the first recess appointment in 1980, when Republicans filibustered his nomination. Since then, five presidents have made 26 NLRB recess appointments. Only 3 of these appointments -- 1 by Bush I, 2 by Clinton – would be valid under the Noel Canning ruling. Twenty of the other 23 recess appointments were “intrasession appointments,” while the remaining 3 were intersession appointments to positions that became vacant prior to the recess in which the appointment was made. George W. Bush made the most NLRB recess appointments, 7, none of which were constitutional, according to the DC Circuit.

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    So, I'm not seeing the comparison. Care to explain using facts rather than emotion? TIA

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