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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    And I assume you will respect that opinion regardless of the outcome?
    We will have to see what they say, but agree or not, their decision stands unless they overturn it.
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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    WTF are you talking about? Are you serious? You should take a little time and go through and read this thread. After posting all that I would love to see you go find one post on here where I said Obama was engaged in illegal behavior like you are claiming I did
    Oh, that's an epic fail on my part, I quoted the wrong person I could tell immediately by the reasonable response and coherent points and I thought to myself: this person has become completely coherent. Then I realized I was quoting the wrong person. Really truly sorry 'bout that.
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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    We will have to see what they say, but agree or not, their decision stands unless they overturn it.
    You have to wait and see to see if you will support their decision?
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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Awaiting SCOTUS decision.
    No, the SCOTUS has already ruled that the individual mandate is not an overreach.
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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Oh, that's an epic fail on my part, I quoted the wrong person I could tell immediately by the reasonable response and coherent points and I thought to myself: this person has become completely coherent. Then I realized I was quoting the wrong person. Really truly sorry 'bout that.
    That makes so much more sense.
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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    If this has been a steady progression, and I'll agree it has, are you really going to make an argument that the other guy did it so it's ok?
    Oh dear lord Jesus! Is that what your taking from my posts here?
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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    No, the SCOTUS has already ruled that the individual mandate is not an overreach.
    No, they ruled the "penalty" was a tax. Which was the only way to uphold the law. That could be overturned in the future.
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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    No, they ruled the "penalty" was a tax. Which was the only way to uphold the law. That could be overturned in the future.
    Anything could happen. But no matter how you spin, they did rule on it.

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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    No, they ruled the "penalty" was a tax. Which was the only way to uphold the law. That could be overturned in the future.
    Yeah, and judicial review could be overturned in the future too. Fingers crossed right?
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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    Show me then when he was proven to have exceeded his power. Not by the opinion of the Republican party but in actual facts.
    As a single example, declaring recess appointments when Congress wasn't in recess.

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