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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    George Bush himself would have supported a dictatorship, he said so. Just as long as he was the dictator he said. Partisan Americans are the problem. Some few keep pointing this out but it doesn't seem to matter.
    Was that something he campaigned on? Or was that a poor joke he made? Did he say he wanted to fundamentally change the country? I don't think so.

    Get real, your guy wants the Constitution and our liberties gone, and he'll decide for us. This jerk is not joking, he wants our Constitution gone, because it is the last thing standing between us and an oppressive government.
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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    I guess useful idiot touched a nerve?
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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    I guess useful idiot touched a nerve?
    Which executive order, signing statement, or executive action by Obama had been found unconstitutional by the Supreme Court?
    Trump Attacked A Syrian Airfield. Trump will be a one-term president.

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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Which executive order, signing statement, or executive action by Obama had been found unconstitutional by the Supreme Court?
    Is that some kind of joke?
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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Which executive order, signing statement, or executive action by Obama had been found unconstitutional by the Supreme Court?
    What am I your Google??? Look it up yourself.
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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    What am I your Google??? Look it up yourself.
    You're the one screaming and raving about how Obama is about to bring on the apocolypse. Surely you know of one example?
    Trump Attacked A Syrian Airfield. Trump will be a one-term president.

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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    “I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. . . . corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed.”
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    Yep. That is happening to day. Both parties use the politics of divide and conquer in their search for votes. They turn us against one other, they use fear or install fear while dividing us. One can say we are now legally politically segregated. A very legal and IMO a more destructive for of segregation that what occurred in the deep south between reconstruction and the civil rights movement.

    Both parties have their hands opened to anyone, anywhere for campaign cash. Both parties do not care that by accepting all those millions from corporations, lobbyist, wall street firms, they become no more than indentured servants to them. These moneyed folks now are now the ones running our government and determining our laws behind the faces of the politicians of the two major parties. Talk about Rome it her last days, I fear ditto for the U.S.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Tell us more about the unconstitutional signing statements Obama put on laws that were never passed.
    Dream act....Look it up.
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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Was that something he campaigned on? Or was that a poor joke he made? Did he say he wanted to fundamentally change the country? I don't think so.

    Get real, your guy wants the Constitution and our liberties gone, and he'll decide for us. This jerk is not joking, he wants our Constitution gone, because it is the last thing standing between us and an oppressive government.
    I can assure you Anthony, that Obama is not my guy. You must have missed my first post in the thread. I only point out Bush's comments because there is a trend towards the imperial presidency that will not end when Obama leaves office unless partisans start being Americans first, and republicans or democrats second. As for Bush's comments being "a poor joke", sorry. It's not the kind of comment a president ever should make. You may not realize it, blinded by your partisan ideology at the time, but there were plenty of people who felt the same way about Bush, as we now feel about Obama. So his comment was FAR from a joke, or funny to us. And, it was a comment he made in variants, 2 or 3 different times. STOP being a partisan yourself, and stop acting as though the constitution is only important to you when a democrat is in the White House!!
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    Re: Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Yank View Post
    Do you even have a clue as to what the separation of powers here? Apparently not, I honestly think some of you progressives would support a dictatorship as long as the dictator is a Democrat. This is pathetic & very dangerous
    Do you know what the separation of powers is? Because from what I see you conservatives keep calling foul, then it turns out you were wrong. There is a difference between someone doing something you don't like and something being illegal. The president does have this power. This power granted to him, knowingly or not, by the people of the United States. Think back to all the times over his presidency that people have said that is illegal or unconstitutional and thrown hissy fits. What has come of that? To me it seems like nothing.

    Furthermore I am not a progressive nor would I support a dictator. However I do realize that the president does have this power. He has exercised it before. I don't recall conservative panties being in a bunch when Bush did it. But then again I suppose you people would support a dictatorship as long as that dictator is a Republican right? I'll tell you like I told the last guy, if you don't like the things that the president is doing vote someone else in. And then you can support these same actions by a guy with a different letter in front of his name.
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