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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support[W:315]

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    The judge stated that the law was not applicable to Munoz since she is dead - so the "life support" was not legally required for dead people.

    She should have been pronounced a few months ago, as she met all the criteria, but the hospital did not. Even though she has not been formally pronounced at this time, the judge acknowledged that she is indeed dead.
    Indeed she was, dead and gone. Which then if it comes down to the desires of a dead woman and the possibility of preserving human life; I'd say the thing actually alive should be given top billing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Indeed she was, dead and gone. Which then if it comes down to the desires of a dead woman and the possibility of preserving human life; I'd say the thing actually alive should be given top billing.
    If the woman died when the fetus was viable....by all means, they can do a C-section and deliver at that time.

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    Good lord i hope the family wins and sues the pants off the hospital
    In this case, I would say that the hospital is ineligeble for a lawsuit. The problem here is with the law and it's unclear wording. Some of us are interperting it one way and others another. The state needs to amend the law to make it clearer as to its application. I do hope that the family wins. I just don't think that the hospital should become another victim when they really are not the problem.

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    She is on life-sustaining medical equipment.


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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    This makes my head hurt. I can't wrap my head around how this can be legally allowed. To force a woman to carry full term is taking away her right to choose. But then she's dead, so she can't choose anyway.
    "Brain dead" has become one of those false catch-all slogans. The "brain dead" often can still feel pain. If she had a directive prohibiting artificial life support the hospital is providing specifically prohibited medical care against her express wishes.

    Since she is legally "dead," the husband should just take her body out of there. There would be no legal authority to stop him, rather than him wanting the hospital to do something. Just do it himself.

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    "Brain dead" has become one of those false catch-all slogans. The "brain dead" often can still feel pain. If she had a directive prohibiting artificial life support the hospital is providing specifically prohibited medical care against her express wishes.

    Since she is legally "dead," the husband should just take her body out of there. There would be no legal authority to stop him, rather than him wanting the hospital to do something. Just do it himself.
    Brain dead (as used in the uniform determination of death act) is legal death. Properly diagnosed with the proper criteria they are clinical dead - no pain, no ability to breath spontaneously. Dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I don't see how they have any legal standing against the hospital. It would be a useless lawsuit for nothing more than to make the State and People pay more for an issue that has been settled. A selfish and stupid act.
    Selfish and stupid defines what the hospital did. This was an obvious and easy case. The husband and the woman's family need to be compensated. Furthermore I'm always hearing about how great the economy of Texas is, so this should be no big deal to pay them.
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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Utterly repugnant.

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Could you dance on the grave of that baby just a little more? Sheesh, dude. A baby is going to die here. Try to calm yourself just a bit.
    It's easy to be inflammatory when you don't have any actual issue stance, just a desire to be inflammatory.

    Calling the post disgusting, which it unquestionably is, misses the point - it was meant to be disgusting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Selfish and stupid defines what the hospital did. This was an obvious and easy case. The husband and the woman's family need to be compensated. Furthermore I'm always hearing about how great the economy of Texas is, so this should be no big deal to pay them.
    I thought it was obvious as well. In the medical profession you diagnose properly. If you believe the diagnosis leads you to a place where you have no clue how to procede, you ask. In this case it was a diagnosis of death and how to proceed in accordance with a law. So you bring it to the courts.

    Since they did not pronounce her dead (when they knew she was dead) and bring it to the courts in November, I have to believe that there were political pressures (or similar) pushing their decisions.

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    I'm not prepared to have an opinion in the absence of facts. There are HIPAA restraints, and in the meantime, I'm tired of people practicing medicine and law without a license.

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    "Brain dead" has become one of those false catch-all slogans. The "brain dead" often can still feel pain....
    Some lay persons call a person in a coma or in a permanent vegetive state as being brain dead but being in a coma or PVS is not medically brain dead as they do not fit the medical criteria for brain death.

    In this case the woman was truly a corpse.
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