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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    But in the case of a woman 8 months pregnant and dead, you'd have to keep the woman on life support until such time as the child could be birthed, likely having to stabilize the mother in most cases before operating.

    In "nature" there'd be no diffence between the 5 month old fetus and the 8 month old fetus - they'd both die. But in the case of humans, timing is your issue - 3 or 4 months on life support, while the fetus develops, is too much an imposition whereas a few hours or days is okay.

    I don't get it.
    Exactly, in nature, they'd both die.

    It's also kind of my views on life support - a couple of hours so I can recover is fine. If I'm not going to recover, then why keep me going for months?


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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    She's dead. She doesn't even have a tortured existence. Again, sorry to sound so callous, but it's true. No need to kill a baby to keep from hurting the feelings of someone who will never realize what you've done. I value human life much more than that.
    if you value life you must recognize the value of the opposite side of the coin. if the woman is dead, pull life support and let her expire naturally.
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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    if the mother is brain dead i think some of her bodies functions would stop working.
    Ariel Sharon, as an example, had been brain dead and on life support since 2007 and only died this month. The body's functions can easily be maintained for the 3 or 4 months necessary to give this child a chance at life.
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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
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    Uhh?

    I'm guessing you're reading something into my statement that isn't there...

    We know what we know about the kid's situation from the news.
    The situation yes, but his views on artificial life support not really.


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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    It's nothing like Terri Schiavo. Terri Schiavo wasn't carrying a baby. The only reason this women is being kept on life support is for the baby. No baby? No life support.
    but i think both cases show that there is such a thing as a right to die. and a lot of people went out of their way to keep terri schivo alive even though that life was nothing but a life of agony.
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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    if you value life you must recognize the value of the opposite side of the coin. if the woman is dead, pull life support and let her expire naturally.
    And I would do so once the baby is born. Yes, all life has value, but the mother is dead. It's not going to hurt her at all to leave her on life support for a couple of months to help the baby. She won't even know it's happening.

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Ariel Sharon, as an example, had been brain dead and on life support since 2007 and only died this month. The bodies functions can easily be maintained for the 3 or 4 months necessary to give this child a chance at life.
    Did he die naturally, or only after they pulled the plug? If the latter, I can't figure why they kept him alive for 7 years....like they didn't know after one? Actually, I think he was in a "permanent vegetative state," which isn't really brain dead.

    If the mother stayed alive naturally, then fine. But I don't think that's the case here.


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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Exactly, in nature, they'd both die.

    It's also kind of my views on life support - a couple of hours so I can recover is fine. If I'm not going to recover, then why keep me going for months?
    You don't think that a mother would do anything in her power to keep her child alive? I don't know any woman who'd abandon hope for their child.
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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    No, it doesn't. This isn't about abortion.

    I don't think you know what "ad hom" means.
    Not directly, no, but it involves many of the same principles of bioethics.

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Ariel Sharon, as an example, had been brain dead and on life support since 2007 and only died this month. The bodies functions can easily be maintained for the 3 or 4 months necessary to give this child a chance at life.
    if the mother dies no amount of life support can keep the baby alive once the mothers body starts to go into rigor mortis. or is that the reason why the life support is there in the first place? to prevent the mother's death to affect the health of the baby still attached by its umbilical cord to its dead mother?
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