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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Possibly 35, by law.
    I doubt it. The law is to keep a living patient on life support. Not a dead person on death support.

    The laws are intended for comatose or vegetative patients. No the deceased.

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    I doubt it.
    Cool.

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Cool.
    Yup. Not every state is insane like Texas. It is just disgusting that the working poor (too rich for Medicaid to poor to pay for healthcare) have to go without or receive susbstandard healthcare.....and a dead woman gets high end treatment massively costly treatment against the wishes of the next of kin who knew her best. Disgusting. Yup - pro-fetus (not pro-life) priorities are so prevalent.

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    Yup. Not every state is insane like Texas.
    Just 35 of them.

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I think it is wrong because the acting legal consent is with the husband and the hospital is not acting in accordance with that. If the woman had a living will saying otherwise, I would completely support that but as she does not the legal consent should pass to the husband.

    My wife and I have living wills exactly for this type of situation should it occur.
    I appreciate that view, however, in Texas, in this type of case, the law trumps any living will provision where a pregnancy is at issue, so even if a living will was in place to end life support measures, the hospital would have to continue them for the protection of the fetus.

    I take from what you've said that if the husband agreed with continuing life support, it would be "right" but because he doesn't it's "wrong". That's fair and I'm generally one to oppose government being too involved in the personal lives of its citizens, but in this case and cases like it, I favour support of the helpless life that could possibly survive with intervention.

    Personally, I believe this case is such an issue and newsworthy because in 99 out of 100 such cases the family would be on the side of the hospital trying to do everything possible to save the developing life - they're not here, and that's why it's come to light.
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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    You do what has been done for decades in cases of maternal demise and advanced pregnancy. Do a C-section. A crash C-section can be done in MINUTES.

    The pregnancy of Marlise was early. It also was subject to all the medications and loss of oxygen (etc) as she was. Don't you see a distinct and clear difference?
    Sure, I see the difference - if it was an easy choice, this wouldn't be news. I also see this as a potential advancement in medicine, not just for this unborn child but potentially for others in the future. If medicine simply stuck to "what has been done for decades", we'd still be bleeding patients, sawing off limbs, etc.

    For me, the main distinction in this discussion is between those who express emotion for the husband and mother who want to grieve the death of their loved one and those who express emotion for the unborn child who has a chance, however slim, at life.
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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support[W:315]

    The hospital doesn't have a choice. Take your crusade to the legislators who wrote the law, not the hospitals which follow it.

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    The woman had an advance medical directive stating that she did not want life support or cpr.
    The lawyer who made that for her should have advised her that it wouldn't apply while pregnant. IMO her estate is entitled to a refund.

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    This makes my head hurt. I can't wrap my head around how this can be legally allowed. To force a woman to carry full term is taking away her right to choose. But then she's dead, so she can't choose anyway.
    Well technically she's not a woman anymore since she's brain-dead. She's an incubator. I'm sorry for the crass way that's worded but it's the truth. TX wants it's little tax-payer born. I'll be very interested to read what this child's view on abortion is in 18 years.

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support[W:315]

    Since when do husbands have a right to choose anyway?

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