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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support[W:315]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben K. View Post
    I admire your consistency on the issue and I do agree with an opt-out mentality to organ harvesting. I personally have no problem with how my body is used after death. But a lot of people are advocating certain women should not have that right, whilst getting uncomfortable that they should advocate having that right stripped from them too.
    I don't believe in your linkage of this issue with organ harvesting but thought it important to indicate I do believe in organ harvesting. To me, letting a body rot without helping others is like those people who want to be buried with worldly possessions, as if the dead can be comforted by diamonds and gold.

    I'm very hopeful, and perhaps foolishly, that this fetus can develop to the stage of independence and, if not, I have nothing but praise for those who are at least trying.
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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    Can you link me to the law that says you keep a dead person on "life" support?
    TEX HS. CODE ANN. 166.049 : Texas Statutes - Section 166.049: PREGNANT PATIENTS

    HEALTH AND SAFETY CODE CHAPTER 166. ADVANCE DIRECTIVES

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    From a Dallas news source:

    Erick and Marlise’s parents have been asking doctors to let her die, pointing to a Texas law that says her brain-dead condition fits the definition of death under Texas law. But doctors insist they can’t take her off life support, pointing to another state law that says because the 14-week-old fetus still has a heartbeat, the mother must be kept alive.

    Husband of pregnant, brain-dead woman sues to have her removed from life support in Fort Worth | Dallas Morning News

    From the UK's Telegraph:


    Twelve US states have rules overturning any heath directives from comatose or vegetative state patients, including living wills, if the patient happens to be pregnant. Another 17 states have more vague instructions, with some exceptions dependent on viability of the foetus, possible harm caused by the treatment, or both. Only Wisconsin, Vermont, Oklahoma, Maryland, and New Jersey explicitly guarantee that a woman's advance directives would be upheld regardless of pregnancy.

    However, far more surprising, are the number of states which don't have rules either way at all. A whopping 15 states plus Washington D.C. lack any statutory language regarding whether advance directives would be honoured in case of pregnancy.

    Brain-dead pregnant woman being kept alive for her baby - against her wishes. Welcome to Texas - Telegraph

    Texas Law Keeping Brain Dead Woman “Alive” Because She’s Pregnant

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support[W:315]

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I don't believe in your linkage of this issue with organ harvesting but thought it important to indicate I do believe in organ harvesting. To me, letting a body rot without helping others is like those people who want to be buried with worldly possessions, as if the dead can be comforted by diamonds and gold.

    I'm very hopeful, and perhaps foolishly, that this fetus can develop to the stage of independence and, if not, I have nothing but praise for those who are at least trying.
    Well if they insist on continuing I wish them all the luck in the world. From my experience and what we know, the prognosis is worse than terrible.

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    In this case I fault the TX lesislature and not the hospital. The hospital is in between a rock and a hard place. The lesislature needs to update this law in reguards to such things as DNR and pregnancies.



    Since most DNR's don't note the odd thing linke pregnancy I can see the hospital erroring on the side of caution towards the law. This is a clear example of why all women's DNR's need to clearly state whether or not there should be an exception for if they are pregnant. Ladies go update your DNR's now!
    DNR? She is already DEAD. The husband wants her wishes respected. They are not resuscitating her. They are ventilating a dead person.

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    DNR? She is already DEAD. The husband wants her wishes respected. They are not resuscitating her. They are ventilating a dead person.
    They are following the law, sure.

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support[W:315]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben K. View Post
    Well if they insist on continuing I wish them all the luck in the world. From my experience and what we know, the prognosis is worse than terrible.
    Unfortunately I have to concur with your prognosis.
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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support[W:315]

    Still, nobody knows.

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support[W:315]

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Still, nobody knows.
    true, and if the fetus was seriously harmed by oxygen deprivation, it will probably self-terminate via miscarriage anyway. I don't see the harm in keeping her on life-support to give it a chance.
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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support[W:315]

    Marlise Munoz is in her 21st week, and I've read that more tests will be run at 24 weeks.

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