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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Very significant is the fact that Marlise Munoz's mother is in agreement with her husband. I wish I could understand where they're coming from. They apparently don't have any hope that the unborn baby can survive and/or be normal. I wonder what they have been told and by whom.

    In the meantime, none of us have any idea what's going on in their hearts and minds. But there is no reason to think other than that Marlise's mother and husband loved her very much, are focused on the little boy, and believe they are making the right decision.

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support[W:315]

    So if I understand correctly, people who believe this woman should be kept on life support also believe a dead persons organs should be harvested regardless of consent? I'm not sure what the ethical difference would be in regards personal autonomy Vs. the greater good.

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support[W:315]

    I guess I've missed the posts about organ-harvesting.

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support[W:315]

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I guess I've missed the posts about organ-harvesting.
    There were none. It's an analogy. Lots if dying people need organs. Should the dead have any say in what happens to their organs?

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support[W:315]

    I once had a funeral director explain to me that the deceased have no rights and are dependent on the willingness of the living to honor their wishes.

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support[W:315]

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I once had a funeral director explain to me that the deceased have no rights and are dependent on the willingness of the living to honor their wishes.
    Did that funeral director specify what happens if that deceased person has a living human child inside?

    I don't think anybody here has claimed that the deceased woman has rights.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben K. View Post
    So if I understand correctly, people who believe this woman should be kept on life support also believe a dead persons organs should be harvested regardless of consent? I'm not sure what the ethical difference would be in regards personal autonomy Vs. the greater good.
    The woman's organs were already providing life support to a human child when she died. It's not taking her organs and repurposing them for another person.
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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support[W:315]

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Did that funeral director specify what happens if that deceased person has a living human child inside?

    I don't think anybody here has claimed that the deceased woman has rights.
    No, he didn't. And I was responding specifically to Ben, not trying to make a point.

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support[W:315]

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Did that funeral director specify what happens if that deceased person has a living human child inside?

    I don't think anybody here has claimed that the deceased woman has rights.



    The woman's organs were already providing life support to a human child when she died. It's not taking her organs and repurposing them for another person.
    You've got to be kidding me. Why would it matter what or how the organs are used? The organs would die without intervention. If the state can decide to take control of her body in death for the greater good, they should be able to take control of everyone's corpse.

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support[W:315]

    Interesting question. Isn't abortion allowed only to week 20 in texas? Where I live it is till the end of month 3. So is allowing the mother to die abortion? Hmpf.

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support[W:315]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben K. View Post
    You've got to be kidding me. Why would it matter what or how the organs are used? The organs would die without intervention. If the state can decide to take control of her body in death for the greater good, they should be able to take control of everyone's corpse.
    Incorrect. Her body was already on life support when she died, which is subsequently providing life support for the human child. To come in and remove her body from that life support would kill the child, thus causing more harm.

    It's a terrible, horrible tragedy that this woman died, but we don't need to raise the body count. She's dead, and she had given her organs to her unborn child. It'd be kind of like wanting the organs back from someone after you already died and donated them. And it's not for the greater good, it's so that her child can continue living.
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    I've got to say that it is shadenfreudalicious to see the rich and famous fucquewads on the coast suffering from the fires.

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