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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I don't think that this healthy young woman ever thought she'd have an aneurysm at 33 while pregnant.
    It's a good thing she had the foresight to tell her husband and parents what to do in this situation.
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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    It's what the woman wanted.
    According to what document she signed?

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    The husband, the woman's parents. Are you suggesting they don't exist?
    They exist, yes.

    If they're saying that their former wife / daughter respectively explicitly told them that she wanted their kid / grandkid to die with her should anything bad happen to only her, I'd call them liars. Seems more like they're not considering the circumstances at hand because they're in crazy grief mode.

    Not that if they had it in writing and notarized that I'd care, but at least you could feel better about having made claims that you could substantiate.


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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    According to what document she signed?
    Having worked in the medical field for over thirty years, having a signed living will or DPOA is the exception rather than the rule. When patients are admitted to the hospital this information regarding DPOA is offered. We have always relied on the next of kin. Is it your presumption that this rule applies to everyone BUT her? For GOd's sake, the woman was a paramedic, as was her husband, I guarantee they discussed this ALOT!

    But if you think a signed DPOA or living will is required for all cased. GO ahead and argue.

    Oh hell, I am going to say it.....she does not even need a "living will". She is dead.

    It is sick that her wishes and the wishes of her next of kin are not honored.

    I am curious, who is paying her medical bills? I would think their insurance would have stopped paying when she died.

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I don't doubt that - but is it the optimal process or simply a matter of best option under the circumstances?
    If a woman was declared brain dead at 8 months gestation, the optimal process and best option under the circumstances would be C-section.

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    Having worked in the medical field for over thirty years, having a signed living will or DPOA is the exception rather than the rule. When patients are admitted to the hospital this information regarding DPOA is offered. We have always relied on the next of kin. Is it your presumption that this rule applies to everyone BUT her? For GOd's sake, the woman was a paramedic, as was her husband, I guarantee they discussed this ALOT!

    But if you think a signed DPOA or living will is required for all cased. GO ahead and argue.

    Oh hell, I am going to say it.....she does not even need a "living will". She is dead.

    It is sick that her wishes and the wishes of her next of kin are not honored.

    I am curious, who is paying her medical bills? I would think their insurance would have stopped paying when she died.
    This woman was in the medical field, and lived in a state that specifically has a law about life support and pregnancy. She may not have known about that law, but she most likely did.

    The second the husband tried to remove her from lie support is the second he no longer needs to pay.

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Do you take the same position for all humans who need other humans to assist and protect them from time to time? The homeless person on a street corner in winter - just leave him to freeze to death, right, because that's what nature would do. How about someone who has a heart attack or stroke - just let them live or die on their own devices? How about a premature baby, who needs incubation for a time until he/she more fully develops - just toss them on a table and let them survive or die by their own natural means? Or is it just those unfortunate enough not to escape the womb in time for human intervention?
    If this is the case, then doctors are obsolete.

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    If a woman was declared brain dead at 8 months gestation, the optimal process and best option under the circumstances would be C-section.
    Missed the point - my point, and perhaps you're not interested, was that in a hospital setting, if a pregnant woman "died" would the hospital put her immediately on life support to protect the unborn child or would they immediately do a C-section. Again, it's to the issue of how long on life support is too long when it comes to giving an unborn child a chance at survival and a life of his/her own?
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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    If this is the case, then doctors are obsolete.
    Absolutely right - the "let nature take its course" argument seems to me to be one that must hate all medical advancement or those who may intervene to alter the course of one's life.
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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Absolutely right - the "let nature take its course" argument seems to me to be one that must hate all medical advancement or those who may intervene to alter the course of one's life.
    This woman is dead. She is not on "life support" by any conventional meaning of the term and the hospital is merely in a race against decomposition in a macabre attempt to save a fetus from its fate.

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