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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    This makes my head hurt. I can't wrap my head around how this can be legally allowed. To force a woman to carry full term is taking away her right to choose. But then she's dead, so she can't choose anyway.
    she's dead, so what difference does it make? it can't cause any more harm to her than has already occurred. give the kid a chance.
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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    It is freaky. I know babies bond with and connect to the mother in the womb. They grow to recognize her voice.

    I would think that a healthy cognitive and emotional development of the baby would need a living mother. It seems like this could create risk of learning disabilities and mental illnesses...
    I would be curious if that is even an issue. The baby that is born after the mother was deprived of oxygen for such a prolonged time - probably will not be plagued with mental illness. Severe neurological damage is more likely.

    The whole thing is tragic. But above all else, her wishes should have been respected.

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    she's dead, so what difference does it make? it can't cause any more harm to her than has already occurred. give the kid a chance.
    ... to be born with horrible deformations. I don't understand how you can have a clear conscience with what is essentially a mad scientist experiment. Can this kid be born without a mutated head? Find out in 6 months!
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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    You play CON games. A 20 week old fetus is NOT a kid. You seem unwilling to admit what the law really is and substitute a distorted version to suit your purpose.
    Like I told the other guy, keep your bigotry to yourself - I'm already using an age-neutral term. Not interested in playing BS semantic games.

    I've also done the homework here and I have told you what the law says. No distortion, no games. I assume you don't like the law, but as someone who lives here, I don't much care.

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    give the kid a chance

    Baby Born To Brain-Dead Mother 3 Months After Woman's Declared Death
    Brain dead mom gives birth to twins while on life support
    Researchers from Heidelberg University in Germany scoured the medical literature for cases of pregnant women who were kept on life support after being declared brain-dead. They were able to find details on 19 such cases that were reported from 1982 to 2010.

    Twelve of those fetuses were delivered by caesarean section and survived for some period of time after birth

    There were also two cases involving fetuses that were 15 weeks old when their mothers died. One of the fetuses died in utero 49 days after its mother suffered catastrophic bleeding in the brain in Italy in 1992. The other remained in utero for 107 days – more than 15 weeks – after its mother suffered a traumatic brain injury in the U.S. in 1989. That baby boy was delivered by C-section at 32 weeks; he weighed 3.4 pounds, had Apgar scores of 6 and 9 (scores lower than 7 indicate a newborn needs medical attention, according to the National Institutes of Health), and was developing normally 11 months after his birth.



    Marlise Munoz: Can a fetus survive after mother becomes brain-dead? - latimes.com
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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    ... to be born with horrible deformations. I don't understand how you can have a clear conscience with what is essentially a mad scientist experiment. Can this kid be born without a mutated head? Find out in 6 months!
    see post 316

    and FWIW, we do have the technology to determine if the kid will be born with horrible deformations as the pregnancy progresses. If the tests show normal, let it ride. if not, then they can pull the plug.
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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    Like I told the other guy, keep your bigotry to yourself - I'm already using an age-neutral term. Not interested in playing BS semantic games. I've also done the homework here and I have told you what the law says. No distortion, no games. I assume you don't like the law, but as someone who lives here, I don't much care.
    I am not bigoted, blunt perhaps, I watch how some post, how they distort the law, you keep saying 'kid' as if the fetus is viable. It is still a fetus and by law can be terminated under many conditions and not be a murder. A gunman can't shoot a pregnant lady but the doctors can stop keeping a dead woman's body functioning if the next of kin agrees and the fetus is under the legal limit.

    If nothing else it is abortion on demand and while Texas is doing it's utmost to strangle that law the doctor who pulls the plug on the dead mother has privileges at the hospital and the woman has a DNR.

    I'd say the not liking a law is on the other foot, I'd say the law permits an abortion, so why not termination of heroic means to keep the mother alive and possibly her brain damaged fetus- who isn't viable.

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    see post 316

    and FWIW, we do have the technology to determine if the kid will be born with horrible deformations as the pregnancy progresses. If the tests show normal, let it ride. if not, then they can pull the plug.
    False- if the fetus is found to be horribly damaged but past the 24 week threshold the same folks arguing to not unplug the mother will argue it is against Texas law to abort a late term fetus. they are refusing to stop heroic means for the fetus while still legal to abort- you REALLY think they will agree to terminate the pregnancy after 24 weeks???

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

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