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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Doesn't seem insane to me - but then we never know the entire story when these things come up.

    If the developing child is healthy and can be brought to term, it seems logical to me to do so. I have to say, and all people are different, but if it was my pregnant wife who died in this manner, I'd desperately want the child to survive if he/she could to help honour and remember the woman I loved.

    Personally, I think it's insanity that the husband wouldn't want to do everything possible to save the child - unless, of course, he didn't want it in the first place.
    how can we be sure the baby is healthy given the state of the mothers health?
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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    The woman had an advance medical directive stating that she did not want life support or cpr.
    That wish applied only to her, we do know she wanted to give life to this baby.

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    The hospital is caught between a rock and a hard place. If they take the woman off life support they can be sued, if they leave her on, well, they're getting sued. From the article:

    A spokesman for the hospital welcomed the move.

    'JPS is encouraged by this development because the courts are the appropriate venue to provide clarity, direction and resolution in this matter,' J.R. Labbe said.

    'JPS remains focused on providing compassionate care to all patients while also following the law as it applies to healthcare in the state of Texas,' he continued.


    Read more: Family of brain dead 20-week pregnant mom suing hospital refusing to turn off her life support until the baby can be born | Mail Online
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    It should be adjudicated.

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    The woman had an advance medical directive stating that she did not want life support or cpr.
    That's fair - but let's say, however, in an abstract and admittedly crazy possibility, that a set of conjoined twins had differing views on life-support. Perhaps one had a serious problem or accident, was in a coma or brain dead and had given a directive not to put on life support - but the other twin's life depended upon life support being applied until such time as he/she could be medically treated and able to survive on his/her own. Should both have to die because one didn't want life support?
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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Doesn't seem insane to me - but then we never know the entire story when these things come up.

    If the developing child is healthy and can be brought to term, it seems logical to me to do so. I have to say, and all people are different, but if it was my pregnant wife who died in this manner, I'd desperately want the child to survive if he/she could to help honour and remember the woman I loved.

    Personally, I think it's insanity that the husband wouldn't want to do everything possible to save the child - unless, of course, he didn't want it in the first place.
    Maybe he just prefers natural law to take over. It seems completely illogical to me. In nature, when a pregnant mammal dies, usually the fetus also dies. That's nature, that's how it works. This isn't an abortion thing, this is simply the natural way of things.


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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    how can we be sure the baby is healthy given the state of the mothers health?
    I can't, nor can you - that would be something the hospital would know and likely privileged to immediate family. I've seen nothing that indicates the child is physically or mentally harmed, so I can't say either way.
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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    how can we be sure the baby is healthy given the state of the mothers health?
    How can we be sure that it is not healthy?

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    That's fair - but let's say, however, in an abstract and admittedly crazy possibility, that a set of conjoined twins had differing views on life-support. Perhaps one had a serious problem or accident, was in a coma or brain dead and had given a directive not to put on life support - but the other twin's life depended upon life support being applied until such time as he/she could be medically treated and able to survive on his/her own. Should both have to die because one didn't want life support?
    too bad chang and ang were not born in this day and age, then that would provide a perfect place to answer that question.

    of course chang and angs condition render's this arguement moot because not only were they conjoined siamese twins, but they both shared the same internal organs, when one twin died the other one was sure to follow suit.
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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Maybe he just prefers natural law to take over. It seems completely illogical to me. In nature, when a pregnant mammal dies, usually the fetus also dies. That's nature, that's how it works. This isn't an abortion thing, this is simply the natural way of things.
    I'm sure he doesn't look at her as a pregnant mammal. He looks at her as the mother of his child. I agree with John - unless he didn't want the child to begin with, why would he not do everything in his power to keep the baby alive?

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    That's fair - but let's say, however, in an abstract and admittedly crazy possibility, that a set of conjoined twins had differing views on life-support. Perhaps one had a serious problem or accident, was in a coma or brain dead and had given a directive not to put on life support - but the other twin's life depended upon life support being applied until such time as he/she could be medically treated and able to survive on his/her own. Should both have to die because one didn't want life support?
    But that's not what's happening here. I'd hope that conjoined twins could reach some kind of agreement, but I would think that kind of depends on how they're conjoined. Does the other twin really want to drag their sibling's corpse around for years after the fact?


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