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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    My only disagreement here would be in the fact that there is a third life here that is being protected and supported. Actively killing a developing child in order to appease the wishes of a grieving husband seems a little beyond the "marriage rights" argument. It reminds me of when pharaohs died and a few live servants were buried with the deceased because the pharaohs didn't want to "travel" alone.

    There has to be more to this story than we know at this point. I don't understand at all a father and a grandmother not wanting to do everything possible to save the life of their developing child/grandchild.
    I think since Texas already permits abortion, then whether it is the mother making her own decision or the husband on her behalf, there is no difference. It is none of my business why the husband is making the decision, that is on him.

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    No, but I think if you're going to blame Democrats you should see who's responsible for it.
    They are the same or more to blame. You can pick.

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Republicans want the government out of people's lives only when it's convenient. Reminds me of the Terry Schiavo case.
    That's an interesting discussion I might have the next time I talk to my Senator, Bob Casey.

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    Yes, and that bill goes to Mr. Munoz and his insurer.
    Well in that case, then the hospital should butt out since it is between Munoz and the insurer.

    Glad you agree.

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    I think since Texas already permits abortion, then whether it is the mother making her own decision or the husband on her behalf, there is no difference. It is none of my business why the husband is making the decision, that is on him.
    I highly suspect he is making the decision, based on what his wife wanted, and had the foresight to put on paper.
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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    I think since Texas already permits abortion, then whether it is the mother making her own decision or the husband on her behalf, there is no difference. It is none of my business why the husband is making the decision, that is on him.
    Wait, so what's going on now, you want Mr. Munoz to authorize an abortion on his dead wife and you expect JPS to allow this?

    If so, that's pretty ridiculous.

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    Given that he is on record saying that he wants the hospital to perform an action that will kill this kid... which is pretty yikes, by the way... if he doesn't recant from that awful position, it would probably be for the best if he wasn't in this kid's life.
    Why do you think the hospital is refusing to perform the abortion on this fetus?
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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Well in that case, then the hospital should butt out since it is between Munoz and the insurer.
    By law, the hospital can't turn off life support and kill the living, healthy patient; father has to pay for those expenses for his kid.

    The bill is between the hospital and Mr. Munoz. Paying it is between Mr. Munoz and his and the former Mrs. Munoz's insurance.

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I highly suspect he is making the decision, based on what his wife wanted, and had the foresight to put on paper.

    I just wanted to update you on this since we're on a new page:

    1) There is no DNR. There was no such foresight to put these wishes onto paper. The people who claimed so earlier in this thread were in error. Some reporters out there apparently had misreported his statement of her wishes as though there was a DNR. It has been clarified. There is no DNR.

    2) Even if there had been a DNR, that DNR would have stated on it that it would have no effect for the duration of a pregnancy and that DNR would have been explained to the patient, including that part.
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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    So if there's no DNR, she should be kept alive forever? Or only until they're done using her as an incubator without her consent?
    Call me crazy, but since she wanted the baby while she was alive it should be the default assumption that she would want the baby to live even when she's dead.
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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Call me crazy, but since she wanted the baby while she was alive it should be the default assumption that she would want the baby to live even when she's dead.
    That is, in fact, the default assumption.

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