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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post

    As I said before, I don't know a single woman who wouldn't do all she could to save the life of her child. I have no reason to believe she would want to do otherwise.
    Many women, and couples, choose to abort with the information that their baby will be born severely defective or with little/no chance of surviving. Why do you think we run all those genetic tests, sonograms, etc?
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    So, explain to me how women who seek abortions before 24 weeks but object to that limit being reduced to 20 claim that between the 20 and 24 week period many physical and mental fetal abnormalities become evident? Are they lying?
    These would not be external 'physical' abnormalities caused O2 deprivation. Some mental abnormalities are discoverable by DNA tests and chemical/hormonal tests. The damage by O2 deprivation is not straightforward like that.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Many women, and couples, choose to abort with the information that their baby will be born severely defective or with little/no chance of surviving. Why do you think we run all those genetic tests, sonograms, etc?
    But you just finished saying I was mistaken when I said doctors could fairly easily determine if the fetus has physical or mental damage.

    Are you now arguing with yourself?
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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Our species is not remotely in danger of continuing and if it is, it is not connected to abortion. Way more women choose to give birth than abort. So why not respect the wishes of the family? THEY are the ones directly affected by having to raise a child with no mother and very possibly severely disabled (with a higher chance of never reproducing itself)...and the species will not be affected at all.

    What kind of perspective are you using here? Goodness! You put their feelings & lives last?
    I simply put the preservation of life first.

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    But you just finished saying I was mistaken when I said doctors could fairly easily determine if the fetus has physical or mental damage.

    Are you now arguing with yourself?
    I believe I said they could NOT. Which number post is it? Or what page? Perhaps I wrote it incorrectly.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    I simply put the preservation of life first.
    Good. That's fine. For *you.*
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Good. That's fine. For *you.*
    I apologize if my opinion has somehow or other managed to create an imposition on you or anyone else but my understanding of what we were doing here was discussing our opinions.

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    "he argued that her wishes -- relayed, he said, in conversations but not in writing that she not be on "life-sustaining" measures when she is brain dead "

    Wait, I thought there was a directive?

    Family seeks to take pregnant brain-dead Texas woman off ventilator - CNN.com

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    I apologize if my opinion has somehow or other managed to create an imposition on you or anyone else but my understanding of what we were doing here was discussing our opinions.
    And that's what I mean. I dont even think it's a bad opinion. I just think that it's fine to express it. And to act on it.

    But not to impose it on others. And I apologize if I did imply that you would force it on others if you had the opportunity.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    And that's what I mean. I dont even think it's a bad opinion. I just think that it's fine to express it. And to act on it.

    But not to impose it on others. And I apologize if I did imply that you would force it on others if you had the opportunity.
    I'm not in the decision making process for the hospital or for the family but if I was I would be siding with the hospital....obviously.

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