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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Why is this so hard to understand?

    The primary function of our [all] species is to procreate. We develop all kinds of ways to facilitate that primary function and to keep our offspring alive and healthy so it doesn't make a lick of sense to unhook the woman as long as leaving her hooked up has a reasonable possibility of producing a healthy baby.
    So infertile people should be euthanized since there's no "function" to their existence?


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Or those assuming that she would want it.
    Or those assuming she was not aware of the law regarding life support and pregnant women in Texas.

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    LMAO at the expectation...and even more that LAW and action should be based on it...that a fetus would have a legal document stating its wishes.

    Again....you reduce the topics at hand to comedic levels....when there really is no humor.
    Feel free to go lie about and troll someone else.

    The point was clear, no such document could exist.

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Or those assuming she was not aware of the law regarding life support and pregnant women in Texas.
    Considering you're the one who can't answer a question except with another question, I don't think that I'm the one dodging.

    I know it's the law, I argue that it shouldn't be as I've said from the beginning. Now you can either argue against it, or you can dodge again.


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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I know it's the law, I argue that it shouldn't be as I've said from the beginning.
    I already clarified how I do not support any state intervention into the situation at all.

    The problem that arises if the woman already knew the Texas law is pretty important.

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    The issue, as I understand it, is what the estimated one hour of oxygen deprivation may have done to the unborn child. Since the mother died from that oxygen loss, it is very likely that the unborn child has suffered serious damage from that as well. State law says that the unborn must receive any and all medical aid available, but that may result in a severely impaired child that will require a lifetime of constant care from the family. IMHO, it should be up to the surviving family (the potential father) to decide whether to take that risk or not.
    If I'm not mistaken, it's not too hard for doctors to determine the mental and physical health of the fetus. If, as you suggest, the fetus has suffered serious damage, I can't imagine they will attempt to bring the child to term.
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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    Feel free to go lie about and troll someone else.

    The point was clear, no such document could exist.
    And as such, even the mention of that fantasy has no place in the discussion. If we could make your fantasies real regarding fetuses, they would just completely form and walk out of the uterus day of implantation, carrying guns with bayonets to fend off the 'aggressors', and emerge into society. Perhaps you should work with medical technologies on methods to arm fetuses? Then they could sign documents, use weapons, etc.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    If I'm not mistaken, it's not too hard for doctors to determine the mental and physical health of the fetus. If, as you suggest, the fetus has suffered serious damage, I can't imagine they will attempt to bring the child to term.
    You are mistaken.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    I already clarified how I do not support any state intervention into the situation at all.

    The problem that arises if the woman already knew the Texas law is pretty important.
    The law being what it is, the hospital is doing the right thing legally.

    However, given that her directive stated no life support, I think the law is wrong.


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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    ....

    I'm sorry, of course you're right that this case is different in that here we have destructive selfishness on display... hopefully just brought on by irrational grief.



    A kid's medical expenses are usually paid for by their parents, are they not?
    So you would saddle the widower and his son with the medical expenses associated with keeping his dead wife on life-support, against her stated wishes. Not only that, but you decide that protecting himself and his son against this crippling debt is selfish.

    A fourteen week old fetus went an hour without oxygen. If during a birth a baby goes without oxygen for 3 minutes the results can be severe.

    Why do you hold these views? You fear that any empathy shown to the living loved ones of this poor women, may contradict your position on abortion. We are not talking about abortion. We are talking about letting a family grieve and get on with their lives by respecting the wishes of the deceased.

    Dead people should not be used as incubators.
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