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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    That's all one needs to know. It's sick that she is being kept on those machines against her will.
    Did she want to be taken off life support while pregnant?

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    I'm sure he doesn't look at her as a pregnant mammal. He looks at her as the mother of his child. I agree with John - unless he didn't want the child to begin with, why would he not do everything in his power to keep the baby alive?
    Probably because doctors have discussed the odds surrounding severe defects due to O2 deprivation and any other complications.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

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    That's all one needs to know. It's sick that she is being kept on those machines against her will.
    She's dead, isn't she? I mean, in the case of the 14 year old girl declared "brain dead" people were falling all over themselves to declare why "brain dead" is "really dead". Now we have a woman declared brain dead and people want to start talking about her "rights"? Puh-lease.
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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Death is the absence of life. That's like arguing that zero is part of one. I think you have screwed up0 an old saying that we LIVING people say to one another about death. Experiencing the death of others is a part of life. But death itself is the absence of life, not part of it.



    Akin to calling the left a "Death Cult". Good job on lowering the bar.



    Not a pissing match. I stated quite clearly that the pro-abortion folks can't support saving the life of the baby because it would challenge their belief in the inhumanity of the unborn. All you have done is support this claim by dehumanizing the baby that is growing in the womb.

    "Quod est Demonstrandum" and all that jazz..
    sometimes death is essential for life to exist.

    look at mount saint helens right after it eruputed in the eightys, it destroyed acres of forest and caused destruction on a grand scale. but that destruction did not end all life in the area, and look at the area around mount saint helens now.
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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    What are you going to do?? You are going to give that baby every fighting chance it has to survive. Sheesh. If God wants the baby dead, the baby's going to die no matter what. I don't mean to sound cold and callous, but the mother is, for all intents and purposes, dead. She is gone from this earth. All she's being used for right now is to incubate a baby, to give it a fighting chance. We keep people on life support for organ donation - why not to save a baby? Saving a life is saving a life.
    God can intervene any time he wishes here.

    Otherwise, our laws and respect for the family are not based on religion.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    She's dead, isn't she? I mean, in the case of the 14 year old girl declared "brain dead" people were falling all over themselves to declare why "brain dead" is "really dead". Now we have a woman declared brain dead and people want to start talking about her "rights"? Puh-lease.
    if the woman is brain dead, does she have the right to die? you know: "rest in peace".
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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    That's fair - but let's say, however, in an abstract and admittedly crazy possibility, that a set of conjoined twins had differing views on life-support. Perhaps one had a serious problem or accident, was in a coma or brain dead and had given a directive not to put on life support - but the other twin's life depended upon life support being applied until such time as he/she could be medically treated and able to survive on his/her own. Should both have to die because one didn't want life support?
    No, but that is a different set of circumstances. In this one, just as in the abortion issue, the mother's wishes should be the first considered. As much as I understand the anti-abortion side of this issue, the mother did not want life support in the case of her death.
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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    No, but that is a different set of circumstances. In this one, just as in the abortion issue, the mother's wishes should be the first considered. As much as I understand the anti-abortion side of this issue, the mother did not want life support in the case of her death.
    Did she want to be taken off life support while pregnant?

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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Did she want to be taken off life support while pregnant?
    She had an end of life directive. Do you think that any end of life situation is the way one would expect it to be? Life is unpredictable, but there is a clear purpose to an end of life directive: to maintain the dignity of the individual. If there is a very unusual situation like this one, then maybe I could see asking the family what their wish is. The decision of whether or not to put a child into this world under these circumstances should not be left to a doctor or congress.
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    Re: Texas Hospital keeping pregnant dead lady on life support

    Quote Originally Posted by Mustachio View Post
    She had an end of life directive. Do you think that any end of life situation is the way one would expect it to be? Life is unpredictable, but there is a clear purpose to an end of life directive: to maintain the dignity of the individual. If there is a very unusual situation like this one, then maybe I could see asking the family what their wish is. The decision of whether or not to put a child into this world under these circumstances should not be left to a doctor or congress.
    Did she want to be taken off life support while pregnant?

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