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    Re: US judge strikes down Okla. same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Yes, it does, hence the feds have no involvement in the situation considering they have to amendment for marriage.

    yes they do since they are protecting equal/individual rights
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    Re: US judge strikes down Okla. same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Yes, it does, hence the feds have no involvement in the situation considering they have to amendment for marriage.
    And there's the problem. Gays are so caught up with getting what they want that they don't care about respecting the Constitution. So long as they get their agenda item, **** the country.

    I support SSM, but the way to accomplish it is with the introduction of the 28th Amendment defining marriage. Then the 14th Amendment applies and all states will have to comply.

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    Re: US judge strikes down Okla. same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Of course it is a right decided by various legal decisions:

    Skinner v Oklahoma: "Marriage “one of the basic civil rights of man" Google Scholar

    Loving v Virginia: "“The freedom to marry has long been recognized as one of the vital personal rights essential to the orderly pursuit of happiness by free men.” Google Scholar

    Cleveland Board of Education v LaFeur: "“This Court has long recognized that freedom of personal choice in matters of marriage and family life is one of the liberties protected by the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.” 14 Supreme Court Cases: Marriage is a Fundamental Right | American Foundation for Equal Rights

    Carey v Population Services International: “[I]t is clear that among the decisions that an individual may make without unjustified government interference are personal decisions relating to marriage, procreation, contraception, family relationships, and child rearing and education.” 14 Supreme Court Cases: Marriage is a Fundamental Right | American Foundation for Equal Rights

    Zablocki v. Redhail:“[T]he right to marry is of fundamental importance for all individuals.” Google Scholar

    Turner v Safely: "“[T]he decision to marry is a fundamental right” Google Scholar

    MLB v SLJ: “Choices about marriage, family life, and the upbringing of children are among associational rights this Court has ranked as ‘of basic importance in our society,’ rights sheltered by the Fourteenth Amendment against the State’s unwarranted usurpation, disregard, or disrespect.” M. L. B. v. S. L. J. - 519 U.S. 102 (1996) :: Justia US Supreme Court Center


    With what exactly? That somehow giving people equal protection under the law somehow leads to "authoritarianism"?



    Where am i arguing for "anarchy"?



    Well your opinion certainly seems to be loosing, and I say about god damn time. Equality now!
    I suppose many view gay marriage as an act of acceptance rather than a contract....

    I think that's where people get confused with my position on the issue.

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    Re: US judge strikes down Okla. same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    1.)I suppose many view gay marriage as an act of acceptance rather than a contract....

    I think that's where people get confused with my position on the issue.
    1.) as usual you suppose wrong
    2.) nobody is confused on your position you support discrimination and violating equal and individual rights
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    Re: US judge strikes down Okla. same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    yes they do since they are protecting equal/individual rights
    The only proper way to protect equal rights across state lines is to make a Federal amendment.

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    Re: US judge strikes down Okla. same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    The chips are falling faster and faster. Another win for the good guys....freedom loving Americans and those who oppose bigotry and discrimination. America is continue on her progression to fully become the land of the free.
    So according to you then the majority of the population are bigots who discriminate. So having a referendum now days is meaningless, if some progressive fascist smuck disagrees they shop it to a idealogical judge who will rule on socialist progessive idealogy & not the constitution. Welcome to a top down Authoritarian state as long as it go's your way who cares about the will of the majority huh?

    The only bigots that I see in this issue are the ones who call others bigots for having a differing opinion.

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    Re: US judge strikes down Okla. same-sex marriage ban

    What i love about this ruling:
    http://www.oknd.uscourts.gov/docs/d5...3e/04cv848.pdf

    is that it directly mentions the US constitution and the 14th many times.

    THis could be bigger than expected actually, this is stayed with the other case and now the ruling itself will be judge and this could force SCOTUS to do a direct ruling that would effect the nation instead of a narrow one.

    I dont want to get my hopes up but yes, it has big potential!!!
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    Re: US judge strikes down Okla. same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    And there's the problem. Gays are so caught up with getting what they want that they don't care about respecting the Constitution. So long as they get their agenda item, **** the country.

    I support SSM, but the way to accomplish it is with the introduction of the 28th Amendment defining marriage. Then the 14th Amendment applies and all states will have to comply.
    That's my position as well.
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    Re: US judge strikes down Okla. same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Based on the number of extramarital affairs and divorces, I'd say that it's pretty questionable how many heteros are married in a fraudulent way. As a matter of fact, how many folks do you know, I know about 5 couples, who are separated longer than 2 two years and aren't divorced yet, why???? because they want to keep getting the benefits of being married, taxes as well as all other benefits, like insurance for spouse and so on.
    Are you trying to imply without any proof that gay couples would be more atonement.

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    Re: US judge strikes down Okla. same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    That's my position as well.
    No it's not. Your position is that people should be allowed to vote in laws that are unconstitutional.
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