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    Re: US judge strikes down Okla. same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Hopefully such an intrusion of rights will be repealed and reversed. Turning voters that have issues with changing the definition of marriage into second class citizens in lieu of social changes and progressives/liberals wanting to declare perversion as a protected right worthy enough to completely redefine the English language is not something that should happen. When in doubt, when politics don't go your way just file with the courts and hope some activist judges will give your opinion on a political/social issue legal protection everyone does it.

    If this insanity is upheld I sincerely hope that there is a revolt and maybe even a split of the union. For far too long the rights of people have been eroded by this progressive philosophy of anit-religion and anti-voter's rights/sate's when issues are not popular among secular liberals/progressives. Such a sweeping change of hundreds of years of marital practice should not happen due to perversion becoming more socially acceptable, especially not without a Constitutional Amendment that removes the rights of states to define marriage.

    Really, what it comes down to and what you should be asking yourself is this: Is marriage about love and commitment or is it about a penis and a vagina?
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    Re: US judge strikes down Okla. same-sex marriage ban

    Do people not realize that state issued marriage licenses are legal contracts?

    Yeah, that is why a woman can sue a man and take all his **** in a divorce!!!!

    This has nothing to do with recognizing marriage!!!!

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    Re: US judge strikes down Okla. same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    LOL....no. Actually the majority of the population favors marriage equality.
    This is a complete lie even "Liberal" California rejected it only to have the authoritarian left reverse it, which is now the leftist model for what to do in the rest of the country. Impose it on the people despite many who dont agree, with an Iron fist! .... or gavel if you will.

    evenso...Constitutional rights are not subject to a "referendum" of the popular vote.
    Please show me where in the constitution it gives this right? The founders of that era would have never even considered this and it would be absurd to think otherwise as it was mostly christians whom wrote the document. The definition of marriage to these people was between a man & a women ( as do many today) so theres no way they would have enshrined any such right.

    This is a pipe dream.

    I love it when people try to argue that laws that grant freedom to people are "socialist". It is a completely illogical argument.....one where expansion of rights is viewed by the extreme right wackos as "Authoritarian". Welcome to backwards day.
    The US Constitutuion gives freedom & Liberty to "the Individual" more than any system than I can think of today. Please show me a Socialist country where "the people" have faired better? Spain? Greece? How bout Argentina? How much freedom do they have in socialist China? How bout North Korea? Socialist policies all sound good in the beginning but as history shows us it never delivers as advertized. The end result is usually either bankruptsy like Greece, Argentina & Spain or Authoritarianism such as China & North Korea. Even if its not perfect a Constitutional Republic with Capitalism is by far the best system "for the people". Unfortunatly we are currently being led down the socialist rathole despite the many examples in history of its failure to improve the average citizens lifestyle or freedoms.

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    Re: US judge strikes down Okla. same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Do people not realize that state issued marriage licenses are legal contracts?

    Yeah, that is why a woman can sue a man and take all his **** in a divorce!!!!

    This has nothing to do with recognizing marriage!!!!
    Other than the 1100+ legal protections and benefits that come with a state and federally recognized marriage. None of those will come with me writing and signing a contract, UNLESS that contract is a state issued marriage license.
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    Re: US judge strikes down Okla. same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Yank View Post
    This is a complete lie even "Liberal" California rejected it only to have the authoritarian left reverse it, which is now the leftist model for what to do in the rest of the country. Impose it on the people despite many who dont agree, with an Iron fist! .... or gavel if you will.

    Please show me where in the constitution it gives this right? The founders of that era would have never even considered this and it would be absurd to think otherwise as it was mostly christians whom wrote the document. The definition of marriage to these people was between a man & a women ( as do many today) so theres no way they would have enshrined any such right.

    This is a pipe dream.

    The US Constitutuion gives freedom & Liberty to "the Individual" more than any system than I can think of today. Please show me a Socialist country where "the people" have faired better? Spain? Greece? How bout Argentina? How much freedom do they have in socialist China? How bout North Korea? Socialist policies all sound good in the beginning but as history shows us it never delivers as advertized. The end result is usually either bankruptsy like Greece, Argentina & Spain or Authoritarianism such as China & North Korea. Even if its not perfect a Constitutional Republic with Capitalism is by far the best system "for the people". Unfortunatly we are currently being led down the socialist rathole despite the many examples in history of its failure to improve the average citizens lifestyle or freedoms.
    Prop 8 was failing badly in California until the Mormons poured millions of dollars into an unprecedented propaganda campaign that was full of ugly lies that fooled the voters. Polls taken afterward have consistently shown that Californians regret that vote and favor gay marriage now by about 70%....this is consistent with the exponential change in favor of marriage equality nationwide.

    Show you where the Constitution gives this right? Are you familiar with the equal protection clause? Ever heard of it?

    BTW....YOU were the one that called granting individuals rights "socialist"....not me.

    I think you need to stop listening to the right-wing radio propogandists. It is obvious from reading your post here that they have you by the hook and are just reeling you in. Pick up a newspaper, read a little and don't rely on what the blowhards are paid to tell you.
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    Re: US judge strikes down Okla. same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    1.)Equal protection means protecting the rights of voter's
    2.) and respecting state laws and autonomy on marriage policy.
    3.) Losing a political battle in a state and trying to work around it in the courts with courts reacting on social opinion and personal values is tyranny.
    4.)The judge in this case waited 9 years before making this ruling and quoted the current case in Utah as precedence (one that has stay and is being appealed).
    1.)voters rights are protected and 100% intact
    2.) state laws are 100% intact
    3.) good thing none of this factually happened
    4.) i hope it goes all the way so equality will prevail
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    Re: US judge strikes down Okla. same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    The act of taking away state's rights to set policy and removing the ability of citizens to vote on an issue that should be perfectly acceptable for them to vote on and have their beliefs put into law restricts them to second class citizens and overlooks their right to vote and their state's right to make policy for the state.
    translation: it factually doesnt

    this factually wasnt taken away states still have that right, stop with the dishonest posts
    their right to vote is 100% in tact again stop with the dishonest posts

    you simply dont get to ignore the fact this is a equal and individual rights issue and it proves the dishonesty hyperbole of state/voter rights completely false.

    just like in womans rights minority rights and interracial marriage which are all factually the same. Equal/human/civil rights issues.
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    Re: US judge strikes down Okla. same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    No it doesn't. It means the opposite. It means protecting the individual from the tyranny of the majority or of the state.



    You don't have the right to vote away someone else's rights. You've never had that right, and you never will.
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    Re: US judge strikes down Okla. same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Those poor polygamists Living under tyranny because states won't regocnize multiple partner marriages. Heck, some of them may even say it not only infringes on their rights as loving, committed people but also their religious freedom because their religion may encourage polygamy or allow it with the state not accommodating that.

    Seriously, it isn't tyranny for the state to uphold traditional marriage. What it is is an outcome that some people dislike. The tyranny is taking away the freedom to make those laws and imposing unjust rulings based on social opinion and changes in societal values and not on the letter of the law or new amendments. For years traditional marriage has been law in many states, only until recently fueled by social outcry and politics have we seen a change. Let Oklahoma be Oklahoma with their marriage policies and definitions and let Massachusetts be Massachusetts with the citizens of those states voting and law makers creating and directing policy.
    translation: if Mississippi doesnt want blacks to be equal let them do that, if jersey doesnt want women to be equal let them do that, if north dakota doesnt want blacks to marry whites let them do that, if north Carolina doesnt want Christians to marry jewish people let them do that, if texas wants gays not to be equal let them do that



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    Re: US judge strikes down Okla. same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Contract IS NOT BIASED (unless you're getting divorced)..

    The United States DOES NOT and states DO NOT recognize marriage...

    They recognize what you would understand as a compound contract...

    The Church recognizes marriages, Christians recognize marriages as do the majority of religions - it's a religious even and celebration but NOT A STATE SPONSORED CELEBRATION...

    That is the epic flaw in the homosexual psyche...

    States and the Federal Government understand contracts NOT marriage.

    I'm sorry if this is too hard for someone to understand.
    do you ever make a post that isnt factually wrong?
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