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    Re: US judge strikes down Okla. same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Hopefully such an intrusion of rights will be repealed and reversed. Turning voters that have issues with changing the definition of marriage into second class citizens in lieu of social changes and progressives/liberals wanting to declare perversion as a protected right worthy enough to completely redefine the English language is not something that should happen. When in doubt, when politics don't go your way just file with the courts and hope some activist judges will give your opinion on a political/social issue legal protection everyone does it.

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    Ohhhh, the victim card!

    The definition of marriage includes alot more than gender distinctions for Americans. All Americans. Two bodies with interchangeable parts are not ALL that a marriage is based on.

    Some 'definitions' have been declared unConstitutional, like the ones where it was illegal for birracial couples to marry too. Were the citizens of VA that objected to Loving vs VA also '2nd class citizens?'

    The change is based on equal rights and equal protection under the law. If you can tell me how SSM harms non-SSM marriage in anyway, I'd like to hear it.
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    Re: US judge strikes down Okla. same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I'm not gay, evangelical, or live in OK, so please stop flaunting your bedroom practices in my face by making threads like these. It's non of anyone's business and I'll thank you to keep it that way.
    What bedroom practices are you referring to?

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    Re: US judge strikes down Okla. same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    All of which are irrelevant to state recognition of a same-sex marriage contract.

    What is your objection to state recognition of a same-sex marriage contract?
    If you want to believe that - go ahead and challenge that in court. I suppose at that point it would only matter at how sympathetic your opposition is...

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    Re: US judge strikes down Okla. same-sex marriage ban

    Couldn't happen to a better State!!! Congrats Oklahoma!

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    Re: US judge strikes down Okla. same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    It depends, I cant give you a 101 on **** **** (I'm criminal law but know litigation and what I call **** **** "marriage ****")

    Maybe I'm just too blunt..... sorry.

    BTW, I don't advocate any divorces or want my legal ideas to be used is such a manner..... (also they generally apply in Illinois).

    I'm merely just pointing out that marriage is a legal contract and is NOT some sort of state recognition...

    So there was no bias there to begin with - gays can sign legal contracts too, they're not "legally married" but the benefits that a married couple would have exist to both."
    No, the state and federal governments do not recognize just any old contract for marital protections, it has to be a state issued marriage license/certificate. I can sign any other contract I want, but if it isn't a state issued marriage license then NONE of those 1100+ legal protections will apply.
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    Re: US judge strikes down Okla. same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Prenup places modifications on the contract. There is nothing about a prenup that violates the Constitution.
    If I remember correctly it was in response to English Law.... I don't have any idea of how that works.... Well a little bit but not in the terms of divorce.....

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    Re: US judge strikes down Okla. same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    If you want to believe that - go ahead and challenge that in court. I suppose at that point it would only matter at how sympathetic your opposition is...
    That is being challenged in court which is why this thread exists in the first place. I'm glad we're on the same page now.
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    Re: US judge strikes down Okla. same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfsgirl View Post
    No, the state and federal governments do not recognize just any old contract for marital protections, it has to be a state issued marriage license/certificate. I can sign any other contract I want, but if it isn't a state issued marriage license then NONE of those 1100+ legal protections will apply.
    Yes exactly what I said...

    You can't marry 2 people by the way the states don't recognize bigamy ...

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    Re: US judge strikes down Okla. same-sex marriage ban

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfsgirl View Post
    No, the state and federal governments do not recognize just any old contract for marital protections, it has to be a state issued marriage license/certificate. I can sign any other contract I want, but if it isn't a state issued marriage license then NONE of those 1100+ legal protections will apply.
    Saying what you said when you said this
    "So there was no bias there to begin with - gays can sign legal contracts too, they're not "legally married" but the benefits that a married couple would have exist to both."

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Yes exactly what I said...

    You can't marry 2 people by the way the states don't recognize bigamy ...
    If the state does not recognize the contracts as a legal civil marriage there is no way they will be providing those benefits of marriage to them.

    The state has a contract called marriage. If I go write up a contract and sign it, but it is not a state recognized marriage license, there are none of those legal protections that come with marriage.
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    Re: US judge strikes down Okla. same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    That is being challenged in court which is why this thread exists in the first place. I'm glad we're on the same page now.
    Go ahead and challenge contract then.

    The best you will come up with is spoiling heterosexual marriage contracts and that will just piss off the strong majority of the heterosexual marriage contracts and make them hate gays even more....

    Gay's aren't even in a position to negotiate beyond what these fool politicians imply.

    Do you honestly believe the legislature is going to push this issue as a contract issue (like the did Obamacare) and piss millions of people off just so gays can get married and create an entire new way for fools to rip the government off?

    No, that is why you need to present it as "inequality" as a social issue rather than a financial issue that could be exploited without any audits....

    I see the flaws that are ripe, not only that but the slippery slopes.

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