CNN Reports No Charges Likely In ‘IRS Scandal’

[pbrauer]

This comes as no surprise to this observer, how can you charge some one for doing their job. In the beginning it looked like only conservative groups were targeted, but as time wore on it came apparent that progressive were targeted as well. There were a total of 298 groups created by the BOLO ("Be On The Lookout") list, six of them were progressive. Conservatives have contended the remainder (or 292) were conservative, however the inspector general report says only 96 of them were conservative. The larger differences is due to the number of Tea Party and 9/12 groups created.

CNN Reports No Charges Likely In ‘IRS Scandal’

 

[ttwtt78640]

Yep. When the gov't investigates itself then generally all is found to be OK.

 

[j-mac]

This comes as no surprise to this observer, how can you charge some one for doing their job. In the beginning it looked like only conservative groups were targeted, but as time wore on it came apparent that progressive were targeted as well. There were a total of 298 groups created by the BOLO ("Be On The Lookout") list, six of them were progressive. Conservatives have contended the remainder (or 292) were conservative, however the inspector general report says only 96 of them were conservative. The larger differences is due to the number of Tea Party and 9/12 groups created.

CNN Reports No Charges Likely In ‘IRS Scandal’

298 v. 6.....Oh yeah, that is totally fair....:roll:

 

[Mr.Nick]

This comes as no surprise to this observer, how can you charge some one for doing their job. In the beginning it looked like only conservative groups were targeted, but as time wore on it came apparent that progressive were targeted as well. There were a total of 298 groups created by the BOLO ("Be On The Lookout") list, six of them were progressive. Conservatives have contended the remainder (or 292) were conservative, however the inspector general report says only 96 of them were conservative. The larger differences is due to the number of Tea Party and 9/12 groups created.

CNN Reports No Charges Likely In ‘IRS Scandal’

Not with that bitch Eric Holder, nor the currant makeup of our congress.

Charges will certainly be filed at some point after the midterms or after Obama is done in 2016 (assuming a republican or non-progressive wins).

The problem is that those who do have the power to file charges (such as Holder) applaud what happened and have absolutely no desire to file charges.

That's just our present reality - progressives are extremely partisan and hateful to anyone who opposes their ideas and if they have power to do so they will make like hell for anyone who opposes them....

 

[Chocolate]

Yep. When the gov't investigates itself then generally all is found to be OK.

wait who else would be able to investigate it though?

I'm sure the government is completely honest about it all :wink2:

 

[j-mac]

wait who else would be able to investigate it though?

I'm sure the government is completely honest about it all :wink2:

A special prosecutor.

 

[Mr.Nick]

Yep. When the gov't investigates itself then generally all is found to be OK.

Bingo....

I wouldn't say the whole government falls into that category - Many want heads to roll but for the most part democrats, RINO's and progressives will protect their own... Neither of those groups/organizations or parties likes the Tea Party so, or other libertarian leaning organizations so....

 

[Chocolate]

A special prosecutor.

who hires the special prosecutor and how does he gain access to the private information?

 

[j-mac]

who hires the special prosecutor and how does he gain access to the private information?

In this case I believe it would be either Obama, or Holder that would appoint one, and SP's have subpoena power. But I won't hold my breath that either of those two criminals will do the right thing here, because SP's are independent.

 

[Chocolate]

In this case I believe it would be either Obama, or Holder that would appoint one, and SP's have subpoena power. But I won't hold my breath that either of those two criminals will do the right thing here, because SP's are independent.

so if the government is not doing the investiagtion they are paying someone too? yeah kind of seems like the same exact thing but with a different color paint in my opinion eace

 

[j-mac]

so if the government is not doing the investiagtion they are paying someone too? yeah kind of seems like the same exact thing but with a different color paint in my opinion eace

No, it might help if you read this....

A special prosecutor generally is a lawyer from outside the government appointed by an attorney general or, in the United States, by Congress to investigate a government official for misconduct while in office. A reasoning for such an appointment is that the governmental branch or agency may have political connections to those it might be asked to investigate. Inherently, this creates a conflict of interest and a solution is to have someone from outside the department lead the investigation.

Special prosecutor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Chocolate]

No, it might help if you read this....

damn you from releasing me from my cocoon of ignorance.

Thanks obama

 

[Mr.Nick]

who hires the special prosecutor and how does he gain access to the private information?

A special prosecutor is appointed generally by the AG or Congress, but those involved in this blatant witch hunt against libertarian/constitutional leaning groups are the ones who HAVE THE AUTHORITY to issue a special prosecutor....

They're not going to issue one because they agree with the harassment and persecution of these "constitution based and libertarian organizations."

The IRS (among other appointed individuals in government) are in deep **** once there is a turnover in congress and the presidency in the next couple of years.

 

[iguanaman]

This comes as no surprise to this observer, how can you charge some one for doing their job. In the beginning it looked like only conservative groups were targeted, but as time wore on it came apparent that progressive were targeted as well. There were a total of 298 groups created by the BOLO ("Be On The Lookout") list, six of them were progressive. Conservatives have contended the remainder (or 292) were conservative, however the inspector general report says only 96 of them were conservative. The larger differences is due to the number of Tea Party and 9/12 groups created.

CNN Reports No Charges Likely In ‘IRS Scandal’

I can't believe that aren't going to fix the system so ALL these political groups pay taxes. That is the scandal.

 

[What if...?]

No, it might help if you read this....

Exactly what crime do you think was commited?

What law was broken?

 

[What if...?]

A special prosecutor is appointed generally by the AG or Congress, but those involved in this blatant witch hunt against libertarian/constitutional leaning groups are the ones who HAVE THE AUTHORITY to issue a special prosecutor....

They're not going to issue one because they agree with the harassment and persecution of these "constitution based and libertarian organizations."

The IRS (among other appointed individuals in government) are in deep **** once there is a turnover in congress and the presidency in the next couple of years.

I don't think this means what you think that it means.

There's no there, there.

 

[Mr.Nick]

I don't think this means what you think that it means.

There's no there, there.

It means exactly what it means....

It means that those who have been appointed to appoint special prosecutors have no desire to do such and congress won't do it because it's split like a pizza...

I do understand government and right now progressives have an overwhelming majority in appointed positions and a congress that is extremely divided...

Progressives in government can do whatever the **** they want regardless of our founding documents - and they have done just that... Presently with the IRS they are trying to stuff out all dissent....

I understand their intent..... I'm not an idiot.

 

[chromium]

wait who else would be able to investigate it though?

I'm sure the government is completely honest about it all :wink2:

i think the reteaplicans might nominate glen beck to personally handle the investigation. An expert at financial audits and all.

 

[What if...?]

It means exactly what it means....

It means that those who have been appointed to appoint special prosecutors have no desire to do such and congress won't do it because it's split like a pizza...

I do understand government and right now progressives have an overwhelming majority in appointed positions and a congress that is extremely divided...

Progressives in government can do whatever the **** they want regardless of our founding documents - and they have done just that... Presently with the IRS they are trying to stuff out all dissent....

I understand their intent..... I'm not an idiot.

Respectfully, this is much ado about nothing.

No one was trying to silence speech.

The non-profit status in question is NOT for partisan political activities. There's a different one for that. Fraud is a real problem in the non-profit community. Donations to political nonprofits aren't tax deductible and donors names are more public.

So two groups file for 501(c)(3) status erroneously/illegally: those who want more money, which they'll get with deductibility. And those who wish to fund political activity anonymously.

The people whose job it is to weed out these applications used keywords, like all search functions. It is unclear whether putting "tea party" on the list was a proactive decision by a bureaucrat or a response to previous issues with groups with "tea party" in the name. A political "party" cannot be a 501(c)(3) by DEFINITION.

Add to this a huge increase in applications due to the CU decision.

At worst it is a bureaucratic snafu where groups had their applications delayed

 

[Mr.Nick]

Respectfully, this is much ado about nothing.

No one was trying to silence speech.

The non-profit status in question is NOT for partisan political activities. There's a different one for that. Fraud is a real problem in the non-profit community. Donations to political nonprofits aren't tax deductible and donors names are more public.

So two groups file for 501(c)(3) status erroneously/illegally: those who want more money, which they'll get with deductibility. And those who wish to fund political activity anonymously.

The people whose job it is to weed out these applications used keywords, like all search functions. It is unclear whether putting "tea party" on the list was a proactive decision by a bureaucrat or a response to previous issues with groups with "tea party" in the name. A political "party" cannot be a 501(c)(3) by DEFINITION.

Add to this a huge increase in applications due to the CU decision.

At worst it is a bureaucratic snafu where groups had their applications delayed

You mean like ACORN and Planned Parenthood - of course their "offshoots."

lol.

 

[rcart76]

Not with that bitch Eric Holder, nor the currant makeup of our congress.

Charges will certainly be filed at some point after the midterms or after Obama is done in 2016 (assuming a republican or non-progressive wins).

The problem is that those who do have the power to file charges (such as Holder) applaud what happened and have absolutely no desire to file charges.

That's just our present reality - progressives are extremely partisan and hateful to anyone who opposes their ideas and if they have power to do so they will make like hell for anyone who opposes them....

 

[j-mac]

Exactly what crime do you think was commited?

What law was broken?

Unlawful Disclosure of Tax-Exempt Organizations Confidential Taxpayer Information.

For one....

 

[Ockham]

Nothing done about the IRS scandal? Shocking...shocking I say.

 

[Mr.Nick]

That's not a correct analogy....

I don't like anyone who believes they can circumvent the Bill of Rights or Constitution because it "makes sense" in a remedial or political way to them - or whatever their intent is.

I stand by the founding documents and "pot meet kettle" does not apply to me because I'm not partisan in any way shape or form.

I may strongly disagree with a lot of people but not because of political affiliation - but because of their tyrannical collective ideas as a group - republicans included.

 

[rcart76]

298 v. 6.....Oh yeah, that is totally fair....:roll:

The instructions that Internal Revenue Service officials used to look for applicants seeking tax-exempt status with “Tea Party” and “Patriots” in their titles also included groups whose names included the words “Progressive” and “Occupy,” according to I.R.S. documents released Monday. - See more at: So IRS Didn't 'Target Conservative Groups,' After All | Crooks and Liars

Would it be actually possible that the tea party movement was much bigger than liberal or progressive groups. How many liberal groups filed a application vs conservative groups? You guys are comparing the count without actual knowing how many applied.