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    Re: Iran's Rouhani casts nuke deal as win for nation

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    J-Mac seems to be under the impression that a scenario exists in which Iran would publicly announce we had pulled the wool over their eyes.
    I think he is under the impression that a scenario exists where they would say "You win, we give up!" (Without talking to them, of course)


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    Re: Iran's Rouhani casts nuke deal as win for nation

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    In other words its stockpile, which has been enriched to 20%, is to be neutralized.
    Oh my....Read the sentence...Neutralized to 20%....So that means they get to stockpile pretty damn close to weapons grade.
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    Re: Iran's Rouhani casts nuke deal as win for nation

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    J-Mac seems to be under the impression that a scenario exists in which the Iranian President would publicly announce we had gotten the better of them.
    I can speak for myself thank you.
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    Re: Iran's Rouhani casts nuke deal as win for nation

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Oh my....Read the sentence...Neutralized to 20%....So that means they get to stockpile pretty damn close to weapons grade.
    No.

    Even you should be able to see that a point specifically left in to allow near-weapons grade uranium in their possession would render the entire deal meaningless.

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    Re: Iran's Rouhani casts nuke deal as win for nation

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I think you're misreading it. They're not neutralizing it to 20%, they're neutralizing the stuff that is at 20%.

    I think the deal is a win for the world. If we can resolve the situation with diplomacy, that's preferable to war right? What was it Reagan said, "Trust but verify?" The first part of it is trust. That's intentional.

    WASHINGTON – Key elements of a new nuclear agreement between Iran and six world powers are contained in an informal, 30-page text not yet publicly acknowledged by Western officials, Iran’s chief negotiator said Monday.
    Abbas Araqchi disclosed the existence of the document in a Persian-language interview with the semiofficial Iranian Students News Agency.
    The new agreement, announced over the weekend, sets out a timetable for how Iran and the six nations, led by the United States, will implement a deal reached in November that is aimed at restraining Iran’s nuclear ambitions.
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    When officials from Iran and the world powers announced that they had completed the implementing agreement, they didn’t release the text of the deal, nor did they acknowledge the existence of an informal addendum.
    In the interview, Araqchi referred to the side agreement using the English word “nonpaper,” a diplomatic term used for an informal side agreement that doesn’t have to be disclosed publicly.
    The nonpaper deals with such important details as the operation of a joint commission to oversee how the deal is implemented and Iran’s right to continue nuclear research and development during the next several months, he said.
    Araqchi described the joint commission as an influential body that will have authority to decide disputes. U.S. officials have described it as a discussion forum rather than a venue for arbitrating major disputes.
    White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said Monday that the text of the implementing agreement would be released to lawmakers. He said the six parties were weighing how much of the text they could release publicly.
    Asked late Monday about the existence of the informal nonpaper, White House officials referred the question to the State Department. A State Department comment wasn’t immediately available.
    [Updated 8:45 p.m. Jan. 13: A State Department spokeswoman, Marie Harf, denied later Monday that there was any secret agreement.
    "Any documentation associated with implementation tracks completely with what we've described," she said. "These are technical plans submitted to the International Atomic Energy Agency," the United Nations' nuclear watchdog agency.


    New Iran agreement includes secret side deal, Tehran official says - latimes.com
    It's all Bull **** anyway...They are making 'side deals'....So in the end, whether it is 1 year from now, or 3 years we will all of the sudden hear how Iran has broken out, and is testing their bomb.....Probably close to the end of Obama's term so liberals can blame it on the next repub President like they did with NK.
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    Re: Iran's Rouhani casts nuke deal as win for nation

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    It's all Bull **** anyway...They are making 'side deals'....So in the end, whether it is 1 year from now, or 3 years we will all of the sudden hear how Iran has broken out, and is testing their bomb.....Probably close to the end of Obama's term so liberals can blame it on the next repub President like they did with NK.
    Who is Abbas Araqchi to contradict Rouhani and state that Iran will continue to enrich uranium regardless? This claim is fuzzy as hell, and besides, we have this:

    [Updated 8:45 p.m. Jan. 13: A State Department spokeswoman, Marie Harf, denied later Monday that there was any secret agreement.
    "Any documentation associated with implementation tracks completely with what we've described," she said. "These are technical plans submitted to the International Atomic Energy Agency," the United Nations' nuclear watchdog agency.
    There is a lot that the leadership is saying to its own, clearly in order to save face.

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    Re: Iran's Rouhani casts nuke deal as win for nation

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Who is Abbas Araqchi to contradict Rouhani and state that Iran will continue to enrich uranium regardless? This claim is fuzzy as hell, and besides, we have this:



    There is a lot that the leadership is saying to its own, clearly in order to save face.
    Oh yeah....The snarky little spokes liar at the State dept. is nothing but truthful...uh huh....
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    Re: Iran's Rouhani casts nuke deal as win for nation

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    This was the second point in your own post....

    "* Iran has committed to neutralising its entire stockpile of uranium enriched to 20 per cent, which is close to weapons-grade and therefore a main area of concern."

    You didn't see that?
    No, he did see that which is what prompted the comment in the first place. I suggest you re-read his statement.
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    Re: Iran's Rouhani casts nuke deal as win for nation

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Oh yeah....The snarky little spokes liar at the State dept. is nothing but truthful...uh huh....
    Yes, we get it, you don't trust Obama, that point is not lost on us. But you didn't answer my question: who is Abbas Araqchi and what is his authority in directly contradicting the terms of the deal? You skimmed your own article, else you would have seen that Rouhani was specifically placating hard line elements in the government who clearly felt they got the raw end of the deal. There is a massive face-saving campaign going on in Iran and your distrust for the Obama administration is blinding you to that.

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    Re: Iran's Rouhani casts nuke deal as win for nation

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Oh my....Read the sentence...Neutralized to 20%....So that means they get to stockpile pretty damn close to weapons grade.
    You're misunderstanding the syntax. Neutralize the stockpile that has been enriched to 20%. Yes, their wording is not great.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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