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    Re: U.S. appeals court kills net neutrality

    I'm serious with this question.
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    Re: U.S. appeals court kills net neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I'm probably a little slow, but is this in any way connected to the "fairness doctine" that Democrats seemed to be pushing for some years ago?
    Not really. First, the fairness doctrine had been in place for decades and worked well until repealed by Reagan.

    As far as Net Neutrality... bad mojo. It's basically saying that your ISP is no longer a common carrier. This opens the door to tell you what you can do on the internet as far as going to or supplying to the internet. It can tier charges on a whim.

    I'd really not have a problem with this if there were actually real competition in ISP's. Sure there is wireless phone ISP's now and then there is the phone company but there is only one cable company and therefore cable speeds. It's not real competition. So if you use the internet a lot, as all of us do more and more every day, it is a serious threat.

    I predict serious throttling of speeds to arise as competition to cable TV arise more and more like Google's Chromecast or Roku or Apple TV... any internet based video supplying technology the cable company has a vested interest in using their virtual internet monopoly to suppress that tech so that people instead opt for their tv service.
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    Re: U.S. appeals court kills net neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    No. It means that each internet provider( dial up, dsl, cable, satellite, etc ) can restrict or hinder your internet connection for whatever reason. If Time Warner wants to make it impossible for you to reach DISH Satellite TV Packages & Satellite Television Service | DISH to sign up for a competing service, they can.

    Would they do that? Probably not. But they will most likely kill thepiratebay and the like. They are required to tell customers, however, if any of those types of activities are ongoing. Not exactly sure how the FTC determines the authenticity of their policies, but I suspect audits would take place.
    I can see Comcast internet blocking access to Fox since they bought NBC. Or CBS or ABC...
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    Re: U.S. appeals court kills net neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    My question is, in all fairness, don't we the tax payer own the damn ISP's anyway? Aren't we the one's that paid for the damn cable and towers through massive subsidies?

    As far as I'm concerned open internet is WHAT is intrinsic about the internet. This ruling opens the door for a tremendous amount of corruption, and is purely antithetical to consumer protections.


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    Absolutely. This is going to end up being a huge disservice to small upstart businesses.
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    Re: U.S. appeals court kills net neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    This will show the cable companies to be the cartels they really are. Watch as speeds on sites like YouTube go down now for every provider at the same time.

    The government can't stop collusion.

    Also, this decision is a joke because there is no choice in broadband providers. We get whoever won the government contract to dig up roads, etc.
    UNLESS!!!! You are in Kansas City, or soon, Austin, TX or Provo UT.

    Google Fiber

    There you can tell the cable company to kiss your ass with their 20mb or 50mb speeds when Google is sending you 1gb/sec speed for the same price or less. The rest of us are screwed.
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    Tiered pricing... What a HUGE regression. Instead of being wide open, I'm seeing us regressing into like... Directtv styled pricing where "you get these channels for $X." Then you get these few extra channels for $X + much more." ... and on and on and on.
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    Re: U.S. appeals court kills net neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    And then more competition from corporations who dont censor. Free market win.
    Given the nature of the internet and the incredibly high barrier to entry for an ISP, no, this is not to be expected.

    Additionally, these ISPs received substantial taxpayer funding to set up these networks. So I think that has strings attached, like don't censor the internet.
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    Re: U.S. appeals court kills net neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Given the nature of the internet and the incredibly high barrier to entry for an ISP, no, this is not to be expected.

    Additionally, these ISPs received substantial taxpayer funding to set up these networks. So I think that has strings attached, like don't censor the internet.
    Good to see you support attaching strings to receiving government money.

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    Re: U.S. appeals court kills net neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Given the nature of the internet and the incredibly high barrier to entry for an ISP, no, this is not to be expected.

    Additionally, these ISPs received substantial taxpayer funding to set up these networks. So I think that has strings attached, like don't censor the internet.
    I think you are missing the point. I'll let the super tech genius, Senator Ted Stevens, explain it to you in his highly informative argument for killing net neutrality:



    It saddens me that someone so ignorant of the topic as this guy was, makes rules we have to live by.
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    Re: U.S. appeals court kills net neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Good to see you support attaching strings to receiving government money.
    And apparently you don't.
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    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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