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    Re: U.S. appeals court kills net neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    You were not aware?
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    Re: U.S. appeals court kills net neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Why do you oppose government censorship but have no problem with private censorship? Censorship is censorship and if it infringes on my right to free speech I have the right to protest the censorship.
    Because the Constitution doesn't guarantee a right to free speech across the board, it only guarantees that the government cannot stop you. You have no right to use another person's platform for your speech. There's this really bizarre idea that the 1st Amendment guarantees that no one, anywhere, for any reason, can stop you from saying whatever you want to say. It's ludicrous and entirely false.

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    Re: U.S. appeals court kills net neutrality

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    U.S. appeals court kills net neutrality [W:23]Take the back and forth to the basement. Everyone needs to stop baiting/trolling and get on topic

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    Re: U.S. appeals court kills net neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Get ready for corporate censorship of the internet.

    Article is here.
    I'm probably a little slow, but is this in any way connected to the "fairness doctine" that Democrats seemed to be pushing for some years ago?
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F. Buckley Jr.

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    Re: U.S. appeals court kills net neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    You would not be fine with it When you find out they are censoring you
    Sure I would. They do it to me all the time on this forum, which is private.

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    Re: U.S. appeals court kills net neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    The internet provider industry is not a free market. That's the problem.

    My stance on Net Neutrality has always been that it's the poorer, but more realistic, of two options.

    The best option would be to remove the regulations that largely grant geographical monopolies or duopolies to a few telecom giants. That, sadly, is unlikely to happen. So the next option is to use regulation to deal with the pitfalls caused by your other regulation.
    Its a free-er market. You can choose between DSL, cable, satelite, wifi. And theres no reason people cant innovate on top of that. Theres just no reason to because the companies that are effective monopolies are doing a good job.

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    Re: U.S. appeals court kills net neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    The First Amendment, with regards to free speech...it isn't without limitations. The government (at various levels) can intervene if speech is determined to be outside of its limitations.
    There are no limitations in the first amendment. Just because govt does it anyway, doesnt make it legal for them to do so.

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    Re: U.S. appeals court kills net neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Censorship is censorship and if it infringes on my right to free speech I have the right to protest the censorship.
    So you are saying that if I deny my children the right to view your posts, you have a right to protest that and DEMAND they be allowed to view them?
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    Re: U.S. appeals court kills net neutrality

    Unfortunately this was inevitable. Internet providers have been pushing for this forever, and it was only a matter of time before they got their way.

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    Re: U.S. appeals court kills net neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I'm probably a little slow, but is this in any way connected to the "fairness doctine" that Democrats seemed to be pushing for some years ago?
    No. It means that each internet provider( dial up, dsl, cable, satellite, etc ) can restrict or hinder your internet connection for whatever reason. If Time Warner wants to make it impossible for you to reach DISH Satellite TV Packages & Satellite Television Service | DISH to sign up for a competing service, they can.

    Would they do that? Probably not. But they will most likely kill thepiratebay and the like. They are required to tell customers, however, if any of those types of activities are ongoing. Not exactly sure how the FTC determines the authenticity of their policies, but I suspect audits would take place.
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