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    Re: U.S. appeals court kills net neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Because the state has a state granted monopoly on legal force. Any individual can tell a censoring company to walk, I do not want to interact with you anymore, but they cannot tell the government that.

    Free speech has nothing to do with private entities or private people, it has only to do with the government suppressing speech.



    You think that "right" exists?
    The government is not the only entity capable of surpressing free speech. Corperations have the ability to that too, albeit indirectly.
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    Re: U.S. appeals court kills net neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    The government is not the only entity capable of surpressing free speech. Corperations have the ability to that too, albeit indirectly.
    Except they are the only entity that can suppress free speech. That is specifically what free speech means, the absence of state suppression of speech. Are you referencing voting?

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    Re: U.S. appeals court kills net neutrality

    The First Amendment, with regards to free speech...it isn't without limitations. The government (at various levels) can intervene if speech is determined to be outside of its limitations.

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    Re: U.S. appeals court kills net neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    The First Amendment, with regards to free speech...it isn't without limitations. The government (at various levels) can intervene if speech is determined to be outside of its limitations.
    If it is an action.

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    Re: U.S. appeals court kills net neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    If it is an action.
    Huh....SPEECH IS AN ACTION...verbally, in art, etc, etc, etc, .....speech is express a multitude of ways...NO? Don't answer.

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    Re: U.S. appeals court kills net neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Huh....SPEECH IS AN ACTION...verbally, in art, etc, etc, etc, .....speech is express a multitude of ways...NO? D
    No.

    Speech is speech until it turns into an action, which comes from that often cited SCOTUS quote about yelling fire in a crowded theater.

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    Re: U.S. appeals court kills net neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    And then more competition from corporations who dont censor. Free market win.
    The internet provider industry is not a free market. That's the problem.

    My stance on Net Neutrality has always been that it's the poorer, but more realistic, of two options.

    The best option would be to remove the regulations that largely grant geographical monopolies or duopolies to a few telecom giants. That, sadly, is unlikely to happen. So the next option is to use regulation to deal with the pitfalls caused by your other regulation.

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    Re: U.S. appeals court kills net neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    No.

    Speech is speech until it turns into an action, which comes from that often cited SCOTUS quote about yelling fire in a crowded theater.
    Uh huh...OH MY GAWD...REALLY? You are a genius. Try reading sometime...YOU JUST REPEATED MY POINT! Okay...continue trolling....

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    Re: U.S. appeals court kills net neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Huh....SPEECH IS AN ACTION...verbally, in art, etc, etc, etc, .....speech is express a multitude of ways...NO? Don't answer.

    Thanks for that LONG fulfilling response. Anything else? I haven't got much time. Those 1 to 5 word replies and statements are extremely time consuming.
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    Re: U.S. appeals court kills net neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Uh huh...OH MY GAWD...REALLY?
    You were not aware?

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