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    Re: U.S. appeals court kills net neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by Heebie Jeebie View Post
    Isn't the future in wireless? Why would anyone need to run more lines? Launch more satellites or build more towers maybe but aren't the days of needing transmission lines are running out?
    Various interests are already fighting over access to the limited amount of RF bandwidth remaining.

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    Re: U.S. appeals court kills net neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by Heebie Jeebie View Post
    Isn't the future in wireless? Why would anyone need to run more lines? Launch more satellites or build more towers maybe but aren't the days of needing transmission lines are running out?
    Wireless technology eventually terminates into a line-based infrastructure. I don't expect long-range wireless transmission data rates to even approach, let alone trump, fiber.

    Perhaps eventually someone will invent a better mousetrap, but the tech isn't close.

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    Re: U.S. appeals court kills net neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    So long as people are continuing to pay comcast millions of dollars, comcast will not change. Economics 101.
    I agree. I've not suggested otherwise.

    What's also Economics 101 is that if the choice in an area is "Comcast or no cable" then people are probably going to pay for the service even if they have to take it in the ass.

    Again, my preference would be that we didn't have tax payer subsidies for telecom infastructure, we don't have regulations allowing telecoms near singular control over various issues, and we actually have a relatively free market so that net neutrality wouldn't be needed.

    However, unless that happens or UNTIL that happens, government regulation is needed to help protect against the harmful situation the government has created the environment for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Various interests are already fighting over access to the limited amount of RF bandwidth remaining.
    And? Forty years ago telephone wireless didn't exist for all intents and purposes. Then when it started to be marketed was unbelievably expensive. Now some people have multiple wireless phones. Perhaps the current technology has this limitation but that doesn't mean there will not be another solution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    Wireless technology eventually terminates into a line-based infrastructure. I don't expect long-range wireless transmission data rates to even approach, let alone trump, fiber.

    Perhaps eventually someone will invent a better mousetrap, but the tech isn't close.
    And yet perhaps it will only require a few miles of wire at some point as opposed to the millions of miles in the current infrastructure. The demand to access internet rapidly is not going away. If roadblocks that impede open access to it are put in place the only thing I am certain of is someone will find a way around it, and probably become a billionaire in the process.
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    Re: U.S. appeals court kills net neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    Wireless technology eventually terminates into a line-based infrastructure. I don't expect long-range wireless transmission data rates to even approach, let alone trump, fiber.

    Perhaps eventually someone will invent a better mousetrap, but the tech isn't close.
    I'm on a wireless system. And it originates from Time Warner Cable 50 miles away. So I have to assume that whatever the contract is between my ISP and T.W....won't exclude Time Warner from holding control over content.

    It's kind of like we'll live in a new country that operates its Internet like China. We'll live in the United States of Corporations, which will obviously control the Interest.

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    Re: U.S. appeals court kills net neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by Heebie Jeebie View Post
    And? Forty years ago telephone wireless didn't exist for all intents and purposes. Then when it started to be marketed was unbelievably expensive. Now some people have multiple wireless phones. Perhaps the current technology has this limitation but that doesn't mean there will not be another solution.
    What you are looking for is essentially optical wi-fi: laser-based transmission of data. Not sure how they would get around the point-to-point problem, but we can rest assured that top men are on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    What you are looking for is essentially optical wi-fi: laser-based transmission of data. Not sure how they would get around the point-to-point problem, but we can rest assured that top men are on it.
    Top men? You sure about that? I thought they were looking into an Ark of some sort.
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    Re: U.S. appeals court kills net neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Tiered pricing... What a HUGE regression. Instead of being wide open, I'm seeing us regressing into like... Directtv styled pricing where "you get these channels for $X." Then you get these few extra channels for $X + much more." ... and on and on and on.
    Wireless communications did it.
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    Re: U.S. appeals court kills net neutrality

    I'm thinking organizations will pop searching for censorship by ISPs, and reporting it.
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