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FBI to Examine Kelly Thomas Trial Evidence After Officers' Acquittals

More unfettered ignorance.


Another post with lack of arguments.

Are you actualy capable of doing anything else but repeating the same talkingpoints over and over again?
 
I can have it both ways by simply sumerising: A jury is more likely to make unobjective, unjust and unreasonable decisions.

Like I said before, it`s a bunch of amatures.

ps: If you reply to this post I will request a mod to splitt the thread.

No need to split the thread. I tend to forget just how much unquestioning trust Europeans have in their government. Our system was formed with a certain amount of distrust. Jurors are a check against governmental power. I can see why that would bother you.
 
Imperfect as it is, I still believe in the jury system. The problem with a panel of judges is that having the same jury pool trial after trial leads itself to bribery.

The one panel of judges we have called the supreme court are bribed by political parties.

Same here.

I have sat on 2 criminal juries, and 1 grand jury.

The process is quite impressive.
 
No need to split the thread. I tend to forget just how much unquestioning trust Europeans have in their government. Our system was formed with a certain amount of distrust. Jurors are a check against governmental power. I can see why that would bother you.

The inherent mistrust that drives US governance.

It is good having checks and balances in any system.
 
No need to split the thread. I tend to forget just how much unquestioning trust Europeans have in their government. Our system was formed with a certain amount of distrust. Jurors are a check against governmental power. I can see why that would bother you.

I wont give any opposing arguments if you dont mind.

The thread has been drailed enought.
 
Never used the word perfect.

Spend some time educating yourself regarding the jury system and get back to me.

Yea, you had your faults alright.

It's called genocide.

Your level of attempting to derail this thread is outrageous. Other than your expressing your personal hatred of Germans or non-Americans, do you have a point?

German police fire less than 100 rounds a year. American police fatally shoot thousands of people a year. That is addition to beating people to death. Do you have any link to any incident of German police beating or crushing someone to death is - say the last 10 years?
 
Same here.

I have sat on 2 criminal juries, and 1 grand jury.

The process is quite impressive.

That is unfortunate.
 
Mornin' SW.
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I am glad you got this up. No sooner was the verdict read off about these Cops being found not guilty. The FBI jumped Right on it and says it will investigate.

I listened to the Cops attorneys. They kept saying there was other evidence besides the video and that the video made it the incident look more horrible than it was. Problem with that lame excuse was all the people at the Bus terminal that took pics with their phones. Which many of them weren't allowed to even be witnesses.

Also the other problem with that.....was Thomas' face. The wound were done by blows to the face. Which has nothing to do with restraining anyone.


What other evidence? That statement is nothing.

The video makes "the incident" look exactly like what happened.

Of course witnesses were not allowed to testify. The DA did not want a conviction. The DA's office only wanted to avoid protests for not putting the officers on trial and not lay basis for a civil suit in a guilty verdict. The judge also was part of the same governmental system. So it predictable that witnesses harmful to the defense would have been allowed to testify.
 
Your level of attempting to derail this thread is outrageous. Other than your expressing your personal hatred of Germans or non-Americans, do you have a point?

German police fire less than 100 rounds a year. American police fatally shoot thousands of people a year. That is addition to beating people to death. Do you have any link to any incident of German police beating or crushing someone to death is - say the last 10 years?

What, like creating posts based upon the word count of Tolstoy's War & Peace?

Simply making things up that have no relevance to real facts?

Posting total fantasy and fabrication in an attempt to mislead other posters?

Nope, don't think so.
 
I find the jury system to be rubbish in the first place.

"Hey! Let`s let a bunch of strangers who have no clue what law and order is about and who are filled with personal bias decide over the fate of a person."

We have a pannel system consisting of several judges.

Really? I think it works better than systems without juries and adds an lever of control of the state by the citizenry. Personally, I think it better to have more controls than fewer. That is why I also tend to believe it better to elect judges and heads of police and distrust systems, where a judge can be discharged by some branch of government.
 
I can have it both ways by simply sumerising: A jury is more likely to make unobjective, unjust and unreasonable decisions.

Like I said before, it`s a bunch of amatures.

ps: If you reply to this post I will request a mod to splitt the thread.

Now that we have tried to unsuccessfully kill each other, I have a suggestion.

Why not open a thread regarding the jury system, and we can discuss is rationally.

I apologize for getting heated and mean with you.
 
Now that we have tried to unsuccessfully kill each other, I have a suggestion.

Why not open a thread regarding the jury system, and we can discuss is rationally.

I apologize for getting heated and mean with you.

no

first impressions are mostly true.
 
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Wow! an investigation to see if further investigation is warranted. Do folks not understand what is being said?

They can investigate all they want. The only thing they could possibly charge any of the cops with is a violation of Kelly's Civil liberties.
And that would be a hell of a stretch to make.

Not to worry, after a quick review of the details of the case the Justice Department will determine that Kelly Thomas was not black.
 
False. According to the EU, US State Department and the UN, forced removal of a population (what was done to the Native Americans) is a form of genocide.

Far from perfect, but not genocide, nor trying to rule the world.
 
False. According to the EU, US State Department and the UN, forced removal of a population (what was done to the Native Americans) is a form of genocide.

Believe anything you like - relocation is far from mass murder.


gen·o·cide
[jen-uh-sahyd] Show IPA
noun
the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group.

Funny, I don't see relocation here.

Oopsie.
 
Far from perfect, but not genocide, nor trying to rule the world.

Native Americans might disagree with the whole genocide thing.

Thing is most countries have certain aspects of their history they are not proud of but that does not define who they are today. It say's a lot about your argument and maybe your legal system that the only way you could debate with this member was by attacking him and bringing up the Nazis.
 
Native Americans might disagree with the whole genocide thing.

Thing is most countries have certain aspects of their history they are not proud of but that does not define who they are today. It say's a lot about your argument and maybe your legal system that the only way you could debate with this member was by attacking him and bringing up the Nazis.

I apologized, and moved on.

Still did not make his ignorant statements correct, though.
 
Wow! an investigation to see if further investigation is warranted. Do folks not understand what is being said? They can investigate all they want. The only thing they could possibly charge any of the cops with is a violation of Kelly's Civil liberties. And that would be a hell of a stretch to make.

Actually that is EXACTLY what was done several times during the Civil Rights murders in the mid to late 60's. It isn't much of a stretch. it will take their badges away and get them a 10 year sentence. not the same as murder but better than nothing.
 
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