Police: Texting in movie theater sparks fatal shooting, retired officer arrested
Prove it. Lets see the numbers.
The question isn't can we produce it. It is will you accept it? You can easily find this on google. But I will explain it after I post it just so you cannot claim anything ridiculous:
http://www.freshfromflorida.com/content/download/7499/118851/cw_monthly.pdf
A) This is a MONTHLY report kept BY the state of Florida department of agriculture, who is responsible for the issuance of licenses, and so you cannot:
1)refute the "reliability" of this source. At least not rationally.
2)This record is kept up to date (monthly) and has been tracked since10/1/1987 to present. So it is not "out of date" either.
3)This source is directly relevant to disprove any claim that "concealed carriers" are generally unlawful, and it is to prove the opposite. Because the incident took place in Florida...the numbers are from Florida only.
4)The shooter mentioned in this thread is NOT a permit holder. He is retired law enforcement and subject to concealed laws under a federal law. Google that for yourself.
B) As for the numbers. Here they are listed and explained.
1)2,581,087 concealed licenses have been issued since 10/1/1987 for the State of Florida.
2)1,215,734 valid licenses currently. These licenses expire and must be renewed. Others choose to let them lapse.
C) Now. You may discuss "revocation." It isn't a majority case. Here are the numbers SINCE 1987:
1) 17,346 DENIED Applications because of:
I)Criminal History:5,753
II) Incomplete application: 11,593.
This means licenses were never issued for these 17K+
2) License Revocation: 8,153 (since 1987).
I)Clemency Or Legislative rule Change:66
II) Illegible prints: 11
III)Crime PRIOR to Licensure: 524
IV) Crime AFTER License: 7,430
V) Firearm utilized in Crime: 168
VI) Other: 22
3) Reinstated: 854.
Conclusion? Since 1987 Florida has only had 168 crimes committed with a firearm BY lawful concealed carry holders. More licenses have been reinstated than have used the gun in commission of a crime. And utilizing a firearm means that they had a gun to commit the crime. That does not imply fired it or murdered someone.
So. Now the real question. Will you accept that concealed carriers infrequently commit crimes? Especially ones using firearms? Or will you deny?