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Police: Texting in movie theater sparks fatal shooting, retired officer arrested

stand your ground! That popcorn butter can be hot!

Yea, well, he claimed in court that he was in fear of being attacked.

No shock there.

That damn butter can be hot.

Judge have him no bail on the murder 2 charges.

A lot of his former cop buddies showed up in support, of course, and said he was not violent.

One could say the same for about all of the recent shooters.
 
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Ex-cop, active cop.... This doesn't surprise me in the least.

Next week, it will just be a different cop(s) in a different city.

All of the news just repeats itself.

It's time we stop children. What's that sound? Everybody look what's going down.

Really? I don't have a good opinion of cops, they are trained to be abusive and the position attracts bullies. Still, I don't expect them to murder me over texting. This cop won't get away with this. He'll be in a special prison for the rest of his life.
 
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Really? I don't have a good opinion of cops, they are trained to be abusive and the position attracts bullies. Still, I don't expect them to murder me over texting. This cop won't get away with this. He'll be in a special prison for the rest of his life.

With folks he sent ahead of his stay.

Can you say segregation?
 
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Police: Texting argument in movie theater sparks fatal shooting - CNN.com



This is the other side of the coin. Some times having a "good guy" with a gun ends up being far more dangerous than what would probably have been a simple assault or verbal spat. If we had several times more people running around with firearms for "safety" I wonder how many incidents like this would increase. Humans can lose their temper and react irrationally in the moment. This reminds me of another story where a guy leaving his driveway in his truck was accosted by a door to door salesman and shot him point blank out of pure momentary rage.


Many states already have "several times more people running around with guns" (ie shall-issue CCW), and the alleged bloodbaths or substantial rise in murders has NOT followed. Some states have millions of CCWers without blood in the streets.

An isolated incident which proves nothing.
 
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With folks he sent ahead of his stay.

Can you say segregation?

I think there are special prisons for ex-cops and other high profile government types but a quick Google does not support this. I did find that Russia has 10 prisons exclusively for bad cops.

Looks like a lonely life for this senior.....
 
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Many states already have "several times more people running around with guns" (ie shall-issue CCW), and the alleged bloodbaths or substantial rise in murders has NOT followed. Some states have millions of CCWers without blood in the streets.

An isolated incident which proves nothing.

I never stated an increase in CC would create a bloodbath, only that it could lead to some negative consequences. This is far from an isolated incident.

Josh Sugarmann: Killers With Concealed Handguns: George Zimmerman Isn't the Only One

I'm not necessarily against CC, I'm pretty much neutral about gun control at the moment. I'm simply making the point that along with many other things it is a two sided coin.
 
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I never stated an increase in CC would create a bloodbath, only that it could lead to some negative consequences. This is far from an isolated incident.

Josh Sugarmann: Killers With Concealed Handguns: George Zimmerman Isn't the Only One

I'm not necessarily against CC, I'm pretty much neutral about gun control at the moment. I'm simply making the point that along with many other things it is a two sided coin.

10 years in OH with no issues.
 
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I never stated an increase in CC would create a bloodbath, only that it could lead to some negative consequences.

And positives also. Implying just negatives is political motivated on your part and is old, tired, and busted.
 
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I said earlier 25% was a number I just made up because I have no idea what percentage of cc holders actively carry. So all things considered instead of .8% it could amount to.. 1.5%?, or 4% if 100% of cc holders actively carry all the time? its still not very much, the precise amount is not important.

Ah ok. Well I'm sure that number is available. Anyway, when you do crunch the numbers, remember that the proportion of adults actually carrying around will also be based on the fact that the TOTAL population of Utah is not the same, at all, of the number of people actually eligible to carry. For one thing, you have to remove anyone under 18 0r 21, whatever the permit age is. Then convicted felons, elderly, incarcerated, or anyone else in homes or prisons, etc.

And from I've read, *many* people with their permits do carry frequently...whenever they can. Others do *every day.* THere are people around you with firearms all the time and you have no idea.
 
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Driving in most of the US is a requirement, not an option. Maybe your public transportation system is great but in most cities they aren't and they don't even exist in rural areas. When you NEED a gun to get to work or haul supplies just to live, let me know. Until then, yes, driving is a different subject.


If you're championing a return to the 55 MPH speed limit that's another subject - but that's mostly a money thing, talk to the corporations. Again, not the same as CC. Your comparison of CC and driving is ludicrous at best.

That does not matter (and it's not really true. A large % of the population are in urban and suburban areas with access to public transportation and otherwise it is just a matter of convenience, which AMericans are very used to.)....what matters is THE DEATH and INJURY numbers.

Need has nothing to do with it. Millions of Americans are carrying firearms (that according to you, they dont need) and the rates of death/injury are MUCH MUCH less.

This is esp. true...by FAR...because you have to remove ALL crime from those numbers. Because except for a very small fraction, those crimes are not committed by legally-carrying people.

And as an American citizen, your attempt to try to limit people's ownership and use of something they dont 'need' is what is ludicrous.

Forget speed limits...if AMericans REALLY cared ONLY about a NEED for transportation we would all be driving EXTREMELY safe, very heavy, very slow, probably crappy on gas mileage because they'd be heavier for safety purposes, boring cars that didnt differ much except for color. Everybody would be, by law (If you're going to 'rule' on need)....lightly armored family vans that didnt go over 40 mph (or so).

Sorry...Americans love their cars. And they love their guns.

And see my signature...in blue.
 
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Driving in most of the US is a requirement, not an option. Maybe your public transportation system is great but in most cities they aren't and they don't even exist in rural areas. When you NEED a gun to get to work or haul supplies just to live, let me know. Until then, yes, driving is a different subject.
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BTW, there is a saying among people who carry guns, "If I thought I needed a gun, I wouldnt go there."

You NEVER know when you will need to defend yourself and your family. If you could anticipate it, you'd avoid it altoghether.

And that is actually the aim of anyone serious about self defense...awareness and avoidance.
 
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I never stated an increase in CC would create a bloodbath, only that it could lead to some negative consequences. This is far from an isolated incident.

Josh Sugarmann: Killers With Concealed Handguns: George Zimmerman Isn't the Only One

I'm not necessarily against CC, I'm pretty much neutral about gun control at the moment. I'm simply making the point that along with many other things it is a two sided coin.

Ol' boy shouldn't have been texting in the picture show and it wouldn't have happened.
 
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Ol' boy shouldn't have been texting in the picture show and it wouldn't have happened.

Old boy should not be killed for texting.
 
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Old boy should not be killed for texting.

Of he'd left his phone in his pocket, he wouldn't have been killed.
 
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Of he'd left his phone in his pocket, he wouldn't have been killed.

You can't be daft enough to think this way.
 
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An isolated incident which proves nothing.

Yes. Especially when you ignore and dismiss the other 14,999 incidents of gun violence per year (or is it 30k? Hard to keep up with the carnage stats).

Carry on folks. Nothing to see here.
 
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Yes. Especially when you ignore and dismiss the other 14,999 incidents of gun violence per year (or is it 30k? Hard to keep up with the carnage stats).

Carry on folks. Nothing to see here.

More mindless drivel which continues to mean nothing.
 
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Except for, you know, the 14,999 people who aren't here to read this.

Typical bull****.

Never let a good crisis go to waste.
 
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Typical bull****.

Never let a good crisis go to waste.

When they happen at the rate of 50 per day, I'm pretty sure it's not capitalizing on a crisis....
 
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Um...I dont see that with regards to cars at all. I mean sure, we are attempting it currently by making new laws to stop texting and cell phone use. Yet the deaths continue to rise BECAUSE of those 2 things, despite laws.

Again...what's your point? I am more in danger EVERY single day from a teen with a cell phone than a person with a gun.
My point is that the rules and laws for cars are much more extensive than those for guns.
 
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My point is that the rules and laws for cars are much more extensive than those for guns.

I'm not convinced that's true, at least in terms of restrictions. There seem to be very few 'restrictions' on ownership and use of cars.
 
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Cops have broken brains.... The judicial system has reenforced time and time again that cops are above the law and can do whatever the hell they want, when they want without consequence or minimal consequences.

Cops shoot first and ask questions later.... That's why they love their tasers - they just love the idea of hurting anyone who doesn't obey their commands - even off duty.

Hell, look at all the off duty cops here in Chicago that have gotten busted for beating the **** out of people while off duty "for not getting their way" and have gotten off with a slap on the wrist and in some cases even kept their job...

Look at Drew Peterson (2 dead wives) while he plays stupid and his cop buddies believe it was all a coincidence...

John Burge is another example here in Chicago - that **** tortured people into confessing to crimes they didn't commit for 20-years straight before the truth came out about that sick clown (he only got 4 years)...

Cops are bad people who once they have it in their mind that you're a bad guy or a "punk" they believe they have the authority to use any force necessary to resolve THEIR problem with you (not a problem but THEIR problem)...

I agree with this, as does my husband, and he was a cop for years. I'm not a fan of the police because I don't like bullies. No need to throw your weight around and try to act above the law just because you are the law. If police were held to the same standard as civilians, this BS might stop. Hell, if anything, they should be held to a higher standard, because they KNOW better.

Also, I was just talking about Drew Peterson yesterday. Giant, raging, infected hemorrhoid.
 
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I'm not convinced that's true, at least in terms of restrictions. There seem to be very few 'restrictions' on ownership and use of cars.

You don't have to be convinced, but it is 100% accurate.
 
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You can't be daft enough to think this way.

I just can't stop thinking that if the guy had left the phone in his pocket, it wouldnt have happened. There's no disputing that fact.
 
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