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    Re: Police: Texting in movie theater sparks fatal shooting, retired officer arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    Being in your own home and protecting yourself from an intruder is a pretty clear cut case. There is little question lethal force should be an option for the defender. An armed person in public is a very different situation. Now they are entrusted with the responsibility of when to use lethal force in an environment that rarely requires it. You get idiots like Zimmerman who go looking for trouble then have to kill their way out in fear. You get this guy who apparently snapped and killed someone over texting in a theater... The point I'm trying to make is that CC is not a unipolar positive, there are negatives associated with it as well.
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    Re: Police: Texting in movie theater sparks fatal shooting, retired officer arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil E Buster View Post
    Car drivers are indeed looked at with similar trepidation.... Just look at all the laws created around the use of a car. They go MUCH further than owning a gun.
    And yet the death and injury rates are horrible. Besides....most of those laws are regarding registration/taxation or traffic or environmental regulation. After initial licensing requirements, and purchase, you are pretty much good to go.
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    Re: Police: Texting in movie theater sparks fatal shooting, retired officer arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil E Buster View Post
    Car drivers are indeed looked at with similar trepidation.... Just look at all the laws created around the use of a car. They go MUCH further than owning a gun.
    By public perception? No. Verax's post was even evidence of it. Car drivers are not, as a general group, looked at negatively at all.
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    Re: Police: Texting in movie theater sparks fatal shooting, retired officer arrested

    Car drivers who take their cars into public buildings to kill people are very much seen negatively.
    It's all part of the "Me! Me! Me!" generation who presume that their rights trump everyone else's. My car! My gun! My phone! I want them I'll have them where ever I go!
    Phones as well as guns have no place in such a venue. Why do you need to check email in an entertainment room? Why is it even turned on? You and the hundreds of others have paid to be there to see the show. All of it. The woman was right to complain and should have called a manager to tase you out of the building until you attained a level of social awareness such that you were tolerable in the company of humans.
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    Re: Police: Texting in movie theater sparks fatal shooting, retired officer arrested

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    I do too, but then I favored that with Zimmerman also.
    And, in that case, the system worked exactly as it's supposed to.

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    Re: Police: Texting in movie theater sparks fatal shooting, retired officer arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    By public perception? No. Verax's post was even evidence of it. Car drivers are not, as a general group, looked at negatively at all.
    You don't suppose that's because as a society we have and continue to enact laws that protect people and reduce the chances of fatalities and injuries as much as possible?

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    Re: Police: Texting in movie theater sparks fatal shooting, retired officer arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    And yet the death and injury rates are horrible. Besides....most of those laws are regarding registration/taxation or traffic or environmental regulation. After initial licensing requirements, and purchase, you are pretty much good to go.
    There are about 255 million cars in the US, many of them carrying more than one person at a time. There aren't 255 million guns. Initial licensing and purchase is only the beginning. Registration, regulation and traffic enforcement are the day to day realities of owning a car. And are put in place to better protect the populous. Ignoring, or setting aside those points, is foolish.

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    Re: Police: Texting in movie theater sparks fatal shooting, retired officer arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil E Buster View Post
    There are about 255 million cars in the US, many of them carrying more than one person at a time. There aren't 255 million guns. Initial licensing and purchase is only the beginning. Registration, regulation and traffic enforcement are the day to day realities of owning a car. And are put in place to better protect the populous. Ignoring, or setting aside those points, is foolish.
    What is relevant is actual risk. And actual risk of death is far far greater in or by a car. That cant be denied yet because of cultural perceptions....we Americans do indeed deny it. Every day. Multiple times.

    And there are just as many rules for 'using' a gun safely in public as there are for traffic safety. At least comparable. So attempting to create some distinction here is more foolish, IMO.

    All that matters is public safety, right? Isnt that the issue with guns, concealed carry? It's hypocritical in the face of the deaths and injury every single day by vehicle.
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    Re: Police: Texting in movie theater sparks fatal shooting, retired officer arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil E Buster View Post
    You don't suppose that's because as a society we have and continue to enact laws that protect people and reduce the chances of fatalities and injuries as much as possible?
    Um...I dont see that with regards to cars at all. I mean sure, we are attempting it currently by making new laws to stop texting and cell phone use. Yet the deaths continue to rise BECAUSE of those 2 things, despite laws.

    Again...what's your point? I am more in danger EVERY single day from a teen with a cell phone than a person with a gun.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Police: Texting in movie theater sparks fatal shooting, retired officer arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Texting in a theater is annoying.
    and the geezer with the gun was just defending himself from said texting, because we all know, those with concealed carry permits are only carrying them for defensive purposes
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