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    Re: Police: Texting in movie theater sparks fatal shooting, retired officer arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Fine...but Australia also has similar suicide stats from a much more 'western' perspective.

    And it WOULD be swell if everyone was as reasonable as you. If that were the case people wouldnt be so stupid as to say gosh...an Island like England with a much smaller and less diverse population seems to have fewer murders than in the US. The point IS well take. The US is not like ANY OTHER country.
    Australia is an acceptable comparison.

    As for both it and the UK - they're islands, much easier to control access including illegal shipping. Too bad no one mentioned that before now ...
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    Re: Police: Texting in movie theater sparks fatal shooting, retired officer arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    How about we just keep talking about homicides and gun violence and the perpetrators of the vast majority of all of those crimes, the lack of concern expressed by those that bleat on about their cause and target law abiding citizens, and if you dont like it dont bother responding.
    I'll respond to that just because!


    This thread is about a person that was legally carrying a gun and killed someone else with said gun apparently out of rage.
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    Re: Police: Texting in movie theater sparks fatal shooting, retired officer arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Australia is an acceptable comparison.

    As for both it and the UK - they're islands, much easier to control access including illegal shipping. Too bad no one mentioned that before now ...
    Ozclapistan is what the US would have been had the US population not wanted more. And the UK, much like the rest of Europe, has a long feudal and monarchy history which tends to embed the you exist to the benefit of the state mentality.

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    Re: Police: Texting in movie theater sparks fatal shooting, retired officer arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Ozclapistan is what the US would have been had the US population not wanted more. And the UK, much like the rest of Europe, has a long feudal and monarchy history which tends to embed the you exist to the benefit of the state mentality.
    No idea what you're saying. Try better English or a spell checker or something.
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    Re: Police: Texting in movie theater sparks fatal shooting, retired officer arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    I'll respond to that just because!


    This thread is about a person that was legally carrying a gun and killed someone else with said gun apparently out of rage.
    So...NOT about gun control and homicide as the person I actually responded to offered huh?

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    Re: Police: Texting in movie theater sparks fatal shooting, retired officer arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    I'll respond to that just because!


    This thread is about a person that was legally carrying a gun and killed someone else with said gun apparently out of rage.
    I have not seen anything indicating that he was legally carrying.

    My brother in Tampa knows the theater and advised it was no carry.
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    Re: Police: Texting in movie theater sparks fatal shooting, retired officer arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    So...NOT about gun control and homicide as the person I actually responded to offered huh?
    This thread is about a person that was legally carrying a gun (gun control) and killed someone else (homicide) with said gun apparently out of rage.
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    Re: Police: Texting in movie theater sparks fatal shooting, retired officer arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    I have not seen anything indicating that he was legally carrying.

    My brother in Tampa knows the theater and advised it was no carry.
    Can you post a reputable source for that information? Not calling your brother a liar but that's not what I would call a valid source.
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    Re: Police: Texting in movie theater sparks fatal shooting, retired officer arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Can you post a reputable source for that information? Not calling your brother a liar but that's not what I would call a valid source.
    How's this?

    http://www.tampabay.com/news/publics...heater/2160784


    Theater's gun ban raises questions about law

    The Cobb movie theater where Monday's shooting occurred does not allow handguns or other weapons under a company policy in place since October 2012.

    Red and black stickers affixed to doors alert moviegoers to the ban, and the company maintains that violations "may result in expulsion," Cobb spokeswoman Molly McFerran said.

    But while Florida law bans guns in some places even for concealed-permit holders, movie theaters aren't among them, raising a few legal questions. Is it legal to carry a gun onto private property where the owner has banned them? Does the property owner have the right to refuse service based on someone carrying a gun?

    The questions are more than academic because the suspect in Monday's shooting could carry a concealed weapon because he was a retired police officer.

    Under Florida law, guns are banned at airport passenger areas, police stations, governmental meetings, elementary and secondary schools, polling places, courtrooms and a handful of other public places.

    They are not specifically banned by law from theaters, however, so a person with the right to carry a concealed weapon would not be breaking any law by ignoring the property owners' warning, said Bruce Bartlett, recently retired chief deputy state attorney for Pinellas and Pasco counties.

    However, "he would still be subject to being thrown out,'' Bartlett said.

    Criminal defense attorney Mike Kenny, who has offices in Tampa and Port Richey, agreed: A business owner has the right to refuse service or eject someone who brings in a gun.

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    Re: Police: Texting in movie theater sparks fatal shooting, retired officer arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    How's this?

    Texting argument leaves one dead, another hurt in movie theater shooting | Tampa Bay Times


    Theater's gun ban raises questions about law

    The Cobb movie theater where Monday's shooting occurred does not allow handguns or other weapons under a company policy in place since October 2012.

    Red and black stickers affixed to doors alert moviegoers to the ban, and the company maintains that violations "may result in expulsion," Cobb spokeswoman Molly McFerran said.

    But while Florida law bans guns in some places even for concealed-permit holders, movie theaters aren't among them, raising a few legal questions. Is it legal to carry a gun onto private property where the owner has banned them? Does the property owner have the right to refuse service based on someone carrying a gun?

    The questions are more than academic because the suspect in Monday's shooting could carry a concealed weapon because he was a retired police officer.

    Under Florida law, guns are banned at airport passenger areas, police stations, governmental meetings, elementary and secondary schools, polling places, courtrooms and a handful of other public places.

    They are not specifically banned by law from theaters, however, so a person with the right to carry a concealed weapon would not be breaking any law by ignoring the property owners' warning, said Bruce Bartlett, recently retired chief deputy state attorney for Pinellas and Pasco counties.

    However, "he would still be subject to being thrown out,'' Bartlett said.

    Criminal defense attorney Mike Kenny, who has offices in Tampa and Port Richey, agreed: A business owner has the right to refuse service or eject someone who brings in a gun.

    Rich Shopes and Stephen Nohlgren, staff writers
    Works for me as a source - and it shows it was still legal for him to be carrying.


    As an aside, they should also charge him with trespassing. He obviously wasn't welcome there, and he knew it.
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