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    Re: Police: Texting in movie theater sparks fatal shooting, retired officer arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Well, suicides ARE deaths too.

    But the 15k figure is homicides.
    If you actually gave a damn about more than a 'cause' you would be advocating for mandatory minimum sentencing laws for anyone using a firearm in the commission of a crime and criminal possession of firearms rather than targeting the Constitutional rights of law abiding citizens. But then...we already know what you actually care about.

    Oh...and BTW...in places like Japan where they outlawed guns (and criminals still illegally imported guns) their completed suicide rates are dramatically higher than the suicide rates in the US. They find ways, be it jumping from buildings, poisoning, overdose, etc.

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    Re: Police: Texting in movie theater sparks fatal shooting, retired officer arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    If you actually gave a damn about more than a 'cause' you would be advocating for mandatory minimum sentencing laws for anyone using a firearm in the commission of a crime and criminal possession of firearms rather than targeting the Constitutional rights of law abiding citizens. But then...we already know what you actually care about.

    Oh...and BTW...in places like Japan where they outlawed guns (and criminals still illegally imported guns) their completed suicide rates are dramatically higher than the suicide rates in the US. They find ways, be it jumping from buildings, poisoning, overdose, etc.
    I think that we can all agree that guns make it easier to commit suicide. However, the important thing is homicides.
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    Re: Police: Texting in movie theater sparks fatal shooting, retired officer arrested

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    However, the important thing is homicides.
    No, murders are important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ethanUNC View Post
    I think that we can all agree that guns make it easier to commit suicide. However, the important thing is homicides.
    I think if you look at the rate of successful completion of suicides in both Australia and Japan, you would not think the first comment to be so easily guaranteed. As to the 'homicides...cool...we are both on board. And as criminals get illegal weapons as easily as they get illegal drugs we also agree targeting law abiding citizens is an idiotic ploy used by people only interested in the 'cause' of banning guns. So with that we are in agreement that the true answer is to target criminals and do so by draconian sentencing of violent criminals and increased use of the death penalties for murderers using any manner of weapon. See...I KNEW we were just around the corner form "common ground". Reason always wins over 'cause' and ideology.

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    Re: Police: Texting in movie theater sparks fatal shooting, retired officer arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    If you actually gave a damn about more than a 'cause' you would be advocating for mandatory minimum sentencing laws for anyone using a firearm in the commission of a crime and criminal possession of firearms rather than targeting the Constitutional rights of law abiding citizens. But then...we already know what you actually care about.

    Oh...and BTW...in places like Japan where they outlawed guns (and criminals still illegally imported guns) their completed suicide rates are dramatically higher than the suicide rates in the US. They find ways, be it jumping from buildings, poisoning, overdose, etc.
    Who says I don't advocate that?

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    Re: Police: Texting in movie theater sparks fatal shooting, retired officer arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I think if you look at the rate of successful completion of suicides in both Australia and Japan, you would not think the first comment to be so easily guaranteed. As to the 'homicides...cool...we are both on board. And as criminals get illegal weapons as easily as they get illegal drugs we also agree targeting law abiding citizens is an idiotic ploy used by people only interested in the 'cause' of banning guns. So with that we are in agreement that the true answer is to target criminals and do so by draconian sentencing of violent criminals and increased use of the death penalties for murderers using any manner of weapon. See...I KNEW we were just around the corner form "common ground". Reason always wins over 'cause' and ideology.
    Then why are there only 42 homicides in the UK? Why are the numbers so low in all of the countries that control it? If it were so easy to get illegal guns, why aren't their gun homicide rates 1/20 of the US?
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    Re: Police: Texting in movie theater sparks fatal shooting, retired officer arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    draconian sentencing of violent criminals and increased use of the death penalties for murderers using any manner of weapon.
    No thanks - doesn't work well and really expensive. I'm a conservative; I don't like wasting money.
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    Re: Police: Texting in movie theater sparks fatal shooting, retired officer arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by ethanUNC View Post
    Then why are there only 42 homicides in the UK? Why are the numbers so low in all of the countries that control it? If it were so easy to get illegal guns, why aren't their gun homicide rates 1/20 of the US?
    The problem is thinking gun bans can only lower guns crime, and cannot make other crimes go up.

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    Re: Police: Texting in movie theater sparks fatal shooting, retired officer arrested

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    The problem is thinking gun bans can only lower guns crime, and cannot make other crimes go up.
    What makes you think they went up significantly enough to counteract the gun ban? You can't make unfounded claims. Let's see it.
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    Re: Police: Texting in movie theater sparks fatal shooting, retired officer arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    "They" never say Jack **** about it. Ever.

    So...to you...the epidemic of violence...meh...**** it...its just minorities killin minorities....nothing to see here. But when a white kid or adult male does it....whoa...stop the presses! Forget about the vast majority of dead bodies...there is this one shooting...lets run with that...
    The "epidemic of violence" as you call it has been around and discussed for many decades. It generally reappears every election as politicians promise to reduce crime. If you want to discuss that subject you're more than welcome to start a new thread. I'm sure you'll get plenty of replies.

    Why are you trying to change the subject?
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