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    Re: Police: Texting in movie theater sparks fatal shooting, retired officer arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    You can't be daft enough to think this way.
    Wanna' bet? LOL!
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    Re: Police: Texting in movie theater sparks fatal shooting, retired officer arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    I'm not convinced that's true, at least in terms of restrictions. There seem to be very few 'restrictions' on ownership and use of cars.
    What kind of insurance are you required to buy to carry your gun? Personally, I pay ~$100 / mo to the insurance company for the privilege of driving. And that's just the beginning of the restrictions. Next, should we talk about all the black and white signs on the road? Or how about a few dozen pages of traffic laws to which you have to adhere each and every mile you drive?

    But I live in Missouri. We have very few restrictions on gun ownership - almost none if it's not a hand gun.
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    Re: Police: Texting in movie theater sparks fatal shooting, retired officer arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    Police: Texting argument in movie theater sparks fatal shooting - CNN.com



    This is the other side of the coin. Some times having a "good guy" with a gun ends up being far more dangerous than what would probably have been a simple assault or verbal spat. If we had several times more people running around with firearms for "safety" I wonder how many incidents like this would increase. Humans can lose their temper and react irrationally in the moment. This reminds me of another story where a guy leaving his driveway in his truck was accosted by a door to door salesman and shot him point blank out of pure momentary rage.
    We have had a several times increase in CCW. For 40 years now.

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    Re: Police: Texting in movie theater sparks fatal shooting, retired officer arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Yes. Especially when you ignore and dismiss the other 14,999 incidents of gun violence per year (or is it 30k? Hard to keep up with the carnage stats).

    Carry on folks. Nothing to see here.
    And yet...you and people like you DO ignore those 14,999 incidents. because they occur typically in minority communities with minority victims and minority perpetrators and you dont care enough about the victims to say anything about it and are too frightened to go into the communities to go after the perpetrators. So...instead...you cherry pick the occasional tragic incident as your 'cause'.

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    Re: Police: Texting in movie theater sparks fatal shooting, retired officer arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    If you're drunk with a gun on you, do you get your firearms card revoked?
    For conceal carry in Missouri it's illegal if it's "readily capable of lethal use" (i.e., loaded).
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    Re: Police: Texting in movie theater sparks fatal shooting, retired officer arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    The restrictions...observably....are pretty minimal. Laws and regulations do not equal 'restriction.'
    What?!? Laws and regulations are restrictive by their very nature.
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    Re: Police: Texting in movie theater sparks fatal shooting, retired officer arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    We have had a several times increase in CCW. For 40 years now.
    Do you have any data on it?

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    Re: Police: Texting in movie theater sparks fatal shooting, retired officer arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    Do you have any data on it?
    "Florida has issued 2,031,106 licenses since adopting its law in 1987, and had 843,463 licensed permit holders as of July 31, 2011.[4] Reported permit holders are predominantly male.[5] Some states have reported the number of permit holders increasing over time.[6] "With hard numbers or estimates from all but three of the 49 states that have laws allowing for issuance of carry permits, the GAO reports that there were about 8 million active permits in the United States as of December 31, 2011"

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    Re: Police: Texting in movie theater sparks fatal shooting, retired officer arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    [snip] "With hard numbers or estimates from all but three of the 49 states that have laws allowing for issuance of carry permits, the GAO reports that there were about 8 million active permits in the United States as of December 31, 2011"
    Just an FYI - that's ~3% of the US population over 17.
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    Re: Police: Texting in movie theater sparks fatal shooting, retired officer arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Just an FYI - that's ~3% of the US population over 17.
    And if FBI crime states can be believed less than .01% of the perpetrators of violent crimes.

    The fact is that THE VAST MAJORITY of gun owners and CCW holders are honest, law abiding citizens that do not go around shooting up the streets and creating violent incidents. And while people are quick to point out stories like this as an indictment of law abiding citizens and CCW, they completely ignore the senseless acts of violence perpetrated by others. That is also very telling.

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