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Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer[W:173:381]

Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

joko104 said:
"I got out my taser and snapped his face to hell" (one of the officers). Tasers electrically burn a person. The officer was tasering him in the face.
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WTF?
No. He said he smashed his face to hell. He said he was hitting him with it.
Not tasering his face with it.
 
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Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

MMC said:
BTW, we do have the Other Videos up in the other thread too.

Ramos starts off with a Verbal threat.
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Nothing more than a verbal threat to gain compliance from Kelly.
That is separated from what happened as was not acted upon.
 
Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

joko104 said:
Resisting be crushed to death is justification for crush someone to death? I guess that's one way to clear the streets of street people.
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Were they trying to crush the guy or were the trying to subdue the guy to effectuate an arrest?
Don't bother answering as we already know they were trying to subdue a guy who was resisting arrest.
A guy who resisted 5 or 6 taserings.
 
Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

DiAnna said:
Another travesty, another failure of the justice system. A police badge continues to be a license to kill in the state of California. Pathetic and despicable.
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What an absurd position.
There was no failure.
 
Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

If you approve this kind of police action then you would be right at home in Russia.

The first cop created this mess. He is the one who needs to be removed from the dept.
 
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Crosscheck said:
If you approve this kind of police action then you would be right at home in Russia.

The first cop created this mess. He is the one who needs to be removed from the dept.
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I guess the Jury who represents the public, according to you would be right at home in Russia, right?

No. Kelly created this mess. The cops doing their jobs did not.
 
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Excon said:
No you are being silly.

He was not beaten into a comma. That is just silly.
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Whatever, dude. If you think it's okay for cops to beat someone to death just for resisting, that's your problem.
 
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Your Star said:
Whatever, dude. If you think it's okay for cops to beat someone to death just for resisting, that's your problem.
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Why are you not paying attention?
There was no beating of anybody to death.
Stop being absurd.
 
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Excon said:
Why are you not paying attention?
There was no beating of anybody to death.
Stop being absurd.
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I'm paying complete attention. You are the one that is trying to excuse cops abusing their power and beating someone to death.
 
Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

Your Star said:
I'm paying complete attention. You are the one that is trying to excuse cops abusing their power and beating someone to death.
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No you are obviously not, as his death resulted from compression he received while resisting arrest.
That is nowhere near getting beaten to death.

Stop being absurd, and pay attention to the facts.
 
Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

Excon is a troll, he does this in every similar thread taking the most ridiculous position, he gets off on it. I think it speak volumes about what kind of person he is. Anyways...

This is pretty disgusting, I remember back when this video first hit it was hard to watch. Listening to this guy cry for help and flail around on the ground was just sickening. This guy posed zero threat to the gang of officers around him.

I'm absolutely stunned the cops got away with this, I thought it could even go so far as murder, not just manslaughter.
 
Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

Excon said:
No you are obviously not, as his death resulted from compression he received while resisting arrest.
That is nowhere near getting beaten to death.

Stop being absurd, and pay attention to the facts.
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Who gave him the "compression's"? Seriously, the police beat him to death, stop being so obtuse.
 
Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

Excon said:
:doh
There will be no appeal.
To even say such you do not understand that law.

And his injuries that he died from were caused by the compression.
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Okay you are Right on that Point about an appeal.....they will be Re-tried. Now try and get around that ****.
 
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Excon said:
They did not beat him to death.
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they used violence on him and after that he was dead. So his actions lead to his death.
 
Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

Excon said:
WTF?
No. He said he smashed his face to hell. He said he was hitting him with it.
Not tasering his face with it.
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You can hear the taser in the video.
 
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Your Star said:
Who gave him the "compression's"? Seriously, the police beat him to death, stop being so obtuse.
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According to the coroner it was both, which makes sense. There was hundreds of pounds on him while beating him. As he lost body and muscle control from the beating he would have less ability to breath with the crushing weight. In the video there is one officer fully on him and 2 fat officers with their hands pressing against a police cruiser to maximize how much weight they could put on him. At least 500 lbs and like over 600.

Basically they held him on the ground and put a cast iron V8 motor on his back while beating and tasering him. It is possibly they had broken some of his ribs with their clubs, for which the 500+ pounds pressed broken ribs into his lungs.
 
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Your Star said:
I'm paying complete attention. You are the one that is trying to excuse cops abusing their power and beating someone to death.
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People forget who it is the puts together the jury pool. It's the government. Only after the jury pool is picked does the Defense have any say among those who is on the jury.
 
Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

It is important to remember that street person had not broken any law, was unarmed and obviously unarmed having no shirt on.

For the offense of being a shirtless street person he was clubbed, kicked, hit, tasered and crushed to death by half a dozen police officers.
 
Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

Excon said:
Were they trying to crush the guy or were the trying to subdue the guy to effectuate an arrest?
Don't bother answering as we already know they were trying to subdue a guy who was resisting arrest.
A guy who resisted 5 or 6 taserings.
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That is why as a juror I would have voted for manslaughter to give them the benefit of doubt.
 
Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

Your Star said:
Who gave him the "compression's"? Seriously, the police beat him to death, stop being so obtuse.
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It is you who needs to stop being obtuse.Being beaten to death is not the same as death by compression.
Stop being absurd.
His death resulted from compression he received while he was resisting arrest.
That is nowhere near getting beaten to death.

Stop being absurd, and pay attention to the facts.
 
Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

Verax said:
Excon is a troll, he does this in every similar thread taking the most ridiculous position, he gets off on it. I think it speak volumes about what kind of person he is.
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Funny how you say such crap while my opinion is in accord with the evidence and the Jury's decision.
That must mean the Jury are a bunch of troll too, right? :doh
 
Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

MMC said:
Okay you are Right on that Point about an appeal.....they will be Re-tried. Now try and get around that ****.
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Please pay careful attention to what you are going to be told.
Have you seriously not heard of double-jeopardy?
There will be no appeal, period, and there will be no re-trial, period.
 
Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

Peter King said:
they used violence on him and after that he was dead. So his actions lead to his death.
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:naughty
They used force against force. They are allowed to do that.
Kelly was resisting with such force as they had to, to no effect, taser him multiple times and call in multiples of back-up.
Kelly's resistance lead to his own death.
 
Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

Excon said:
:naughty
They used force against force. They are allowed to do that.
Kelly was resisting with such force as they had to, to no effect, taser him multiple times and call in multiples of back-up.
Kelly's resistance lead to his own death.
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There will always be police groupies like your messages are on any topic about police. There are a couple others on the forum.
 
Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

joko104 said:
You can hear the taser in the video.
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:doh
And?
You can not hear Officer Cicinelli taser his head.
You can't because he didn't.
You can hear Officer Cicinelli say he used the taser as blunt object and smashed his face with it.


Speaking in reference to blood.

"I think it is him 'cause I, I, I ran out ... we ran out... we ran out of options so I got the end of my taser and I probably... I just started smashing his face to hell."
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Kelly Thomas Official Bus Depot Video (With Court Text) Part 2 - YouTube




And what one should pay attention to, is that the individual in question was resisting so forcibly that an Officer thought he was out of options in trying to subdue the resisting individual.
Do you folks really not understand the situation they were in?
This wasn't some simple take down and arrest.
The guy was resiting with great force.

It is like you are saying it is ok to resist and to walk away from an arrest.
That isn't how it works. The more force you use to resist the more force is used against you.
 
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