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    Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

    "I got out my taser and snapped his face to hell" (one of the officers). Tasers electrically burn a person. The officer was tasering him in the face.

    The video is fully outrageous. At one point they had as much weigh on him as if they had set a small block Chevy V8 on him as he said over and over he couldn't breathe.

    The entire unedited video is here: Full un-edited video presented in Kelly Thomas murder trial -- latimes.com

    The man was going to die. The claim that he wouldn't put his arm behind his back as reason while putting what looks like 500+ pounds of weight by those fat officers on him meant at that point he was going to die. The only manner he had left to try not be so crushed by the weight was his arms.

    Lay on concrete and put that much weight on your back with your arms behind you and see how long you live. So they had given him the choice of being immediately crushed or or stay alive a few more seconds if he didn't. He could agreed to be killed or be killed for not agreeing to being crushed.

    Clever Catch-22 to kill a street bum. Let us crush you to death or we will crush you to death for refusing.

    They didn't just grab his right arm and put it behind him. The coroner said his death resulted from being crushed and beating injuries.

    From what I see, he was doing nothing illegal to begin with and the first officer began by pricking with him. I would have gone with manslaughter if I were on the jury, but would have to watch more carefully as to which officer(s) that would apply.

    The video speaks for itself.
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    Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    He was resiting. Once you are at that point, it doesn't matter what he was being arrested for.
    Is that anything like resisting?
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    Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Wrong.
    Compression of his chest is what happened.
    That compression caused by Officers trying to subdue him, as he was resisting.
    His resistance makes him the blame.
    Resisting be crushed to death is justification for crush someone to death? I guess that's one way to clear the streets of street people.

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    Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    I just watched the video and I wouldn't convict the cops either.

    I think the cops did a number of things wrong but it wasn't murder.
    It wasn't murder - it was more like 2nd degree manslaughter. And again I'm agreeing with Your Star here - they went over the line. The amount of force exceeded the requirement and in this result the man died. They didn't set out to kill him but they over did it and he died as a result of the police. They should be held accountable. That they were not, as I understand it, is a miscarriage of justice.
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    Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

    iLOL
    Which is contrary to what can be seen in the video.
    Duh!
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    Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well.....His death was caused by Compression and Other Injuries Per your own material.

    That part on Other Injuries is enough grounds to appeal. So those cops ain't walking yet.

    There will be no appeal.
    To even say such you do not understand that law.

    And his injuries that he died from were caused by the compression.
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    Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post

    There will be no appeal.
    To even say such you do not understand that law.

    And his injuries that he died from were caused by the compression.
    Keep repeating it, maybe someone will listen...
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    Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    It is what happened. You're just being silly.
    No you are being silly.

    He was not beaten into a comma. That is just silly.
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    Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    I just watched the video and I wouldn't convict the cops either.

    I think the cops did a number of things wrong but it wasn't murder.

    Having dealt with a number of crazy and/or high people in similar circumstances there is no question in my mind that the cops were attempting to control a resisting suspect.

    That being said, the first cop was unnecessarily confrontational with the guy and escalated the situation because of that. Yeah, the guy was being a jackass but there are better ways of dealing with that jackass than antagonizing him. It was also a bad idea to bash the guy's head in. That generally does not elicit compliance.
    Exactly.
    Yes they did some things wrong but it was not murder.

    Officer Cicinelli clearly was in the wrong for smashing his face with the taser while trying to get Kelly to comply. But that did not cause his death.
    It is like folks just can separate the two, or even realize that he was resisting with such force that 5-6 taserings had no effect.
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    Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

    Another travesty, another failure of the justice system. A police badge continues to be a license to kill in the state of California. Pathetic and despicable.

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