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    Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    No they didn't go too far in trying to subdue him. He went too far in resiting which caused all of this.


    The jury verdict supports that.
    So, just because that Jury found them innocent does mean they are.

    You know this will be appealed Right. Already 3 town Councilmembers have been forced to take a hike. The Police Chief will be next then who will be round to protect these guys.

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    Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Yeah, and you do understand that coroner was not defending the cops Right? That he was on the side of the prosecution against these Murdering Cops.
    And?

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    His death was caused by compression.
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    Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Just because someone resists, it doesn't give the police the right to kill them, it doesn't give the right for them to assault someone, and it doesn't give them the right to beat people into a coma.

    There is a difference between subduing someone and assaulting someone. The police in this instance assaulted someone, which lead to his death. They should be in prison, period.

    Thinking that just resisting gives the police a right to murder someone is silly.
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    Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    You're fine with police going up to people and putting them under arrest for no reason and then police killing them when they resist arrest?
    Stop asserting something I did not say.

    Thee police had a reason for arrest. It didn't matter at the point in this as he was resisting causing all further action.
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    Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    You know this will be appealed Right.

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    No it wont be.

    And, lol, yes it does mean they are innocent.
    Innocent until proven guilty.
    No guilty verdict means still innocent.
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    Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    And?

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    You have no point.
    His death was caused by compression.
    Well.....His death was caused by Compression and Other Injuries Per your own material.

    That part on Other Injuries is enough grounds to appeal. So those cops ain't walking yet.

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    Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Stop asserting something I did not say.

    Thee police had a reason for arrest. It didn't matter at the point in this as he was resisting causing all further action.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wikipedia
    While investigating, they encountered the shirtless and disheveled Thomas and attempted to search him. According to statements given by the officers, Thomas was uncooperative and resisted when they attempted to search him, so backup was called. Video footage, however, shows Thomas complying with Ramos' orders, and also reveals that Ramos gave Thomas unreasonable orders, seemingly intended to confuse the suspect.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Kelly_Thomas

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    Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

    BTW, we do have the Other Videos up in the other thread too.

    Ramos starts off with a Verbal threat.

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    Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Oy Vey!


    That isn't what happened.
    It is what happened. You're just being silly.
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    Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

    I just watched the video and I wouldn't convict the cops either.

    I think the cops did a number of things wrong but it wasn't murder.

    Having dealt with a number of crazy and/or high people in similar circumstances there is no question in my mind that the cops were attempting to control a resisting suspect.

    That being said, the first cop was unnecessarily confrontational with the guy and escalated the situation because of that. Yeah, the guy was being a jackass but there are better ways of dealing with that jackass than antagonizing him. It was also a bad idea to bash the guy's head in. That generally does not elicit compliance.

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