Yet it was one cop plus two civilians without having to beat the guy to a pulp and to death as compared to the six police thugs in Fullerton.
As expected, the records indicated they were fired for violating department policy, but because the records were protected under confidentiality laws, they were not allowed to enter as evidence. Instead, the jurors were told to disregard that testimony, and that's it. No perjury charge for attempting to mislead the court.`
Kelly Thomas case: Personnel records will not be evidence - The Orange County Register
The video shows the officers were gutless cowards getting their rocks off beating a defensiveless poor man to death. The injuries show the intent was to kill him, to literally beat him to death - and they did. Only a total "wish I was a cop so I could beat up people" junkie would see it any other way.
Garo Mardirossian: Exclusive Images of Kelly Thomas' Injuries - YouTube
The other group will never concede, will ignore or fail to refute valid points that were made proving them wrong, but still claim to be "right" no matter how stupid they look. They are either really dumb citizens who cannot face having their reality shattered, or paid shills.
Here's what's gonna happen next:
1. I'll be back with a presentation I'm putting together using the best piece of evidence there is, the video of the murder, to irrefutably show why the jury is wrong
2.excon will ignore the veritable checkmate, and cling desperately to the one thing, which is, of course, "the jury said so"
EDIT: 35 minute video of murder hosted by OCRegister.com has been tampered with. The video is now a full 5 min. and 15 sec. out of sync with the audio (that's funny..wasn't like that before). Anyone know where to get the full uncorrupted video?
N O T H I N G !
Like I told you, I could also provided videos showing a person not resisting. That would matter. As it would show what not resisting looks like. And clearly Kelly was resisting.
But yours do not matter as they are not dealing with the Officers involved or with Kelly. You can not make a comparison between such differences.
You are the only one pretending here. They do not matter.
Secondly: Not that this really matters, as your videos matter not, but do you really not understand the terminology used? Manufactured for television? Do you honestly think that there was no editing done?
Please don't tell me you actually think it is unedited, or not edited to show exactly what they want to show, or manufactured, as in recreate portions to show what they want.
That would be ridiculous if you think that.
You appear to be way to emotionally involved. Why is that?
Here you are spouting nonsense.
Nothing you said here is true in the slightest, yet you somehow think it was an appropriate response.
Kelly was the only Emotionally Disturbed Person in this whole event. Which is supported by the evidence.
The Officer Garcia did not have him unilaterally pinned. What an absurd thing to day.
That would be like saying when Ramos and Wolfe had Kelly on the ground, they had him unilaterally pinned. To even say such, would be total bs.
Especially as Kelly was resisting with such force, that he moved all three of them a foot or two. From camera view, to outside of camera view.
Back to your video. The guy could have gotten away had he resisted more forcibly, or had more knowledge in grappling, Brazilian Jujitsu, or an other number of things that would have gained him experience in such matters.
Like perhaps living a violent life on the streets.
The fact of the matter is, that it took two more individuals to get him subdued.
Not that it matter one bit to this case as all it can show is that every take down and resistance, is different in each and every case.
Do you really not understand that?
Just like the above quotes, the facts and evidence do not agree with you.
Total nonsense in regards to this case, is all you have posted.
"The law is reason, free from passion."
Interesting, as apparently you are in the second category. Which is the reason you keep presenting nonsense and most likely come back with more.
You are not looking for any solution, you are looking to blame when there is no one to blame but Kelly himself.
Me, I am pointing out the evidence which says you are wrong and will continue to do so. Which has nothing to do with winning.
But with the accuracy of the information.
And the crap you have provided recently has already been shown to be irrelevant. And that your take on it, is nothing more than your own imagination at work. Which I will again address below.
It is the same above also. You say the video was tampered with.
You do not know that. Saying it was tampered is nothing more than your imagination at work.
Let me clue you into something. There is a difference between imagination and reality. Please endeavor to learn those differences.
Same information you already provided.
Your take on it, is nothing but your imagination.
And the defense didn't try to "slip" anybody in.
The information was ordered turned over by an Appellate Court. It was. The Prosecutor got to look and decided it was in his best interest to do the following.prosecuting and defense attorneys hashed out an admonishment for jurors that they cannot consider previous testimony about whether or not the two defendants violated Fullerton Police Department policy during their July 5, 2011 altercation with transient Kelly Thomas in a downtown parking lot.
You do not know why he chose to do that.
It is more than likely that the information it contained was not that useful to him.
And this bs about "bogus" testimony is all in your imagination.
He was the the training Officer. And as the Training Officer has far more credibility that the terminating Authority when it come to training and what is or isn't in accord with it.
All you are doing is spouting imaginative nonsense.
Especially as he was not beaten to death.
Especially as it not cowards who take on the position of a LEO.
Stop spouting bs.
Last edited by Excon; 01-22-14 at 10:10 PM.
"The law is reason, free from passion."